Kegbreath quoted the pulp fiction Bible verse today.
I am an agnostic myself, but one thing I can say for sure, that every time one wants me to say that their religion/beliefs are supreme, the more willing I am to
convertswitch to atheism. Also all organized religions are bullshit.I’m a theist agnostic. I believe in some sort of higher power, whether an individual, multiple, or even just spiritual energy. I firmly believe that organized religion as a whole is bad for humans. It removes the ability to question and think critically of things. You’re supposed to believe this. You’re taught to believe that. You’re not choosing to believe in something, you’re being told to.
Atheist agnostic I suppose. I grew up catholic tho, got confirmed in high school and everything lol. I hated the idea that “you’re nothing without God” and “you need God in your life” attitude that they use. Like bro that’s literally abusive behavior what are you doing?
I have a question for you tho. What are your thoughts about humans eventually being able to “measure god”? I’m thinking about radiation, electricity, radio waves. Things that were always there but we just didn’t know what they were. Like if you went near radiation before it was “discovered”, you still got sick, you just didn’t know why.
But we studied those things and now we understand them better. What if “god” as it’s known, or “spiritual experiences” or whatever, are something we can actually devise a way to measure or study? We just don’t understand it yet.
I’m curious to hear from an agnostic theist about this specifically lol. Just the idea that we could “measure god” somehow. A thiest would say god can’t be measured and an atheist would say there is no god so it doesn’t matter.
Hey! I grew up Catholic too! Left the church when I was 8, found agnosticism when I was around 19.
Honestly? I don’t think there is a way to “measure god”, or “gods” or whatever higher power. As a theist, it exists beyond existence. It’s something that exists between lives. I believe in reincarnation at least in a spiritual form, so you meet <Insert Higher Power Being Here> between lives. I believe that if a “higher power” actually exists, it exists beyond any living creatures’ ability to study it. You can feel it, it can exist as a presence but you can never know it’s there. You cannot study it or know what/where/who/how many it is.
It’s why I fell so hard for agnosticism. The idea that there might be something and there might not be, and we have no way as creatures to ever know that. So it’s up to us individually to identity within ourselves how we feel. You fall under the atheist side and I fall under the theist side. I’ve always felt if there was a way to prove a god exists, that’d be neat and I’d totally believe it. But we don’t and I still believe one exists. You’re the opposite where you don’t believe one exists, but are still open to the idea that one could. We share the same world view from different sides of the coin.
I’ve always seen agnosticism as the “scientific” approach to faith. I don’t need to know that there is a god or gods. I just believe there is, but if science ever proved once or the other I’d side on that research. Same with you on the opposite spectrum. But I’m not going to let others… Whether it be preachers or neighbours, or a fucking book dictate what I should believe. I believe what I choose to.
And as someone who loves knowledge and science and space and all that shit, the more and more we learn about the universe, the more and more “proof” there probably isn’t any measurable “God” for us here on Earth. Which goes back to be belief of an inter-spiritual deity/deities between the lives our spirits live.
Like… Our moon radiates detectable energy. It’s gravitational pull creates the tides here on Earth, a hunk of rock rotating around our planet. Radio waves in space can be traced back to stars exploding light years away. It’s not God making them, it’s the universe around us just existing.
What’s he gonna do? Fuck the popes couch?
The Vatican should be taking threat very seriously. He did kill the last Pope
the balls on this couch-fucker… He needs to watch his mouth.
The couch might come back for him later.
If you’re not a Catholic, you might not understand how fucked up it is for Vance to stand there and call the Pope wrong about theology.
By definition, the Pope is right about religion. If he changes his mind tomorrow, he was right then and he is right now.
The equivalent would be if I became a Buddhist and then told the current Dalai Lama he was doing it wrong. Or maybe if I became a Hindu and then insisted that, actually, cheeseburgers are fuckin’ awesome.
No joke, Vance is like two more dumbass statements away from being excommunicated.
Arguably, there would be decent historic precedent for excommunicating Vance RIGHT NOW.
I was shocked this didn’t happen.
two too many
MAGA has come to the Catholic Church, and we’ve all seen what happens when MAGA comes to town. If he’s smart, the Pope should excommunicate him immediately, and threaten every other MAGA with the same if they don’t straighten up.
Of the 50 people in that audience, half were shocked by what he said. The other half were trying to remember the lyrics to the Baby Shark song.
The Pope is WRONG and THEREFORE the Bible NEEDS to be Law!
-Republicans!
Be careful indeed!
as a catholic, vance should probably be careful talking shit about the pope.
you know, the literal hand of god on earth, the holy see, the Supreme Pontiff, the very man who could order Vance’s excommunication after a thorough auto de fe?
he’s so fucking dumb, join a worldwide club then whine piss and moan about it’s leader…
Vance needs to be careful when fucking the sofa. There are zippers on those cushions.
When Vance tells a Pope to be careful, that Pope should be careful. You know, considering Vance’s established track record with Popes…
Wait what did I miss
He killed the last one lmao
The day (or the day after, can’t remember) he visited the previous pope, the pope died.
Died of cringe
Riiiiggghht, “cringe.” That’s what it was…
Vance had a visit with the last pope at the Vatican, right before he died. At the time, Francis was trying to get him to acknowledge biblical teachings to love your neighbour (and I think that ICE was the antithesis of this), and not the vaguely dystopian stuff Vance was pushing about only only offering respect/kindness/compassion to the people closest to you.
Its quite poetic actually. The popes last action was to make one of the most evil men alive turn away from evil. And then the pope dies the next day.
I mean, … it’s not like he was successful.
He was quite successful with his dying. He did it on the first try, unlike his boss.
Very true, failed to turn Vance away from evil though.
