It’s a movie starring his nephew in the lead role, approved by his estate, and by all accounts it just feels like an attempt to whitewash him. This is a man who was accused of being a serial child molester, settled with a family out of court for $25 million just to avoid a trial (Chandler), and openly admitted he slept in the same bed as kids while he was an adult (Bashir interview), among other things. I don’t really see what there is to debate.
Anything pointing this out gets backlash on movie-related subreddits, which I find wild. It makes me wonder, if Epstein could sing and dance, would he have gotten a biopic too? Would people be defending him like this?
I haven’t done an extensive amount of research, but from what I understand, Michael was abused himself and after gaining his wealth used it to protect children. Was he weird yes but none of the kids he was friends with ever accused him but one of those kids parents did. BTW those kids are all 30 and 40 year olds now so if they wanted to report anything it’s not like they could be stopped but instead they and especially the child who’s parents accused Michael support Michael. I would strongly advise you to research into this more because what you’re stating seems like tabloidized bullshit.
10 undeniable facts
There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced.
So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: “Rubba.” He called Robson “Little One” and Safechuck “Applehead.”
Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers’ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something “long and drawn out.” Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.
Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings.
The hallway leading to Jackson’s bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.
Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.
According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson’s children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.
The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson’s mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson’s company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck’s parents got a house. Jordie Chandler’s mother got a diamond bracelet.
Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.
In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.
I used to base my opinion of MJ on what Macaulay Culkin said. I was not aware of the rest of this. You’ve given me a lot to think about, thank you.
The Culkin defense never made much sense anyway. For a practical, personal example: if one of my dad’s wealthy friends was accused of child molestation by multiple children, me saying, “Oh, but he never did anything to me,” wouldn’t discredit the victims at all. As the child of a friend (and same circles), I would clearly be of a “higher status” and therefore protected.
Culkin was a famous child; predators are often selective with their victims. The argument here is that MJ targeted “lower class” children while treating famous ones well. That way, if accusations ever surfaced, the less privileged kids would be branded as money-hungry liars because the famous ones would publicly insist, “He treated me well.”
Lol, people like his music and have empathy toward him so they’re just… dismissing this entire list, along with any other evidence!
I thought I heard the drawings did not match
I don’t know shit about Michael Jackson, but if he never had sex with his wife, how did she give birth to his kids? Did they do IVF?
Sperm donor.
Ah, okay. So he was ace/gay and agreed to be a father to his wife’s bastards? Cool, that’s a really mature attitude. I’m ace and I’m okay with My partners fucking other people. But I don’t know if I’d be willing to raise their kids.
No, he was a pedo who used women as a shield/incubators. Lisa Marie Presley (his first wife) publicly said that they’d fight about having kids & MJ would tell her “Debbie will have them for me then”. It’s not about being gay.
Re “fact” 7 - so he was probably gay. How is that in any way relevant to allegations of child abuse? Unless you’re pushing the homophobic argument that gay men are all pedophiles, and vice versa? How very “woke” of you.
So again, I’m not an expert and I’m not particularly a fan of Jackson, but I am interested in mysteries and such. I want to pick at your point number four because that’s the one that I’m most familiar with. From my understanding and reading of the documents, the description in doesn’t match because the description was for a circumcised dick while MJs autopsy confirmed he was uncut. Personally, I think it’s far more likely that Michael was just a rich eccentric and not fully developed weirdo who a bunch of actual pedophiles used as a scapegoat.
It matched the description of his dick, except for the question of whether he was circumcised. Prosecutors also raised concerns that Jackson may have altered his dick during his “media break” in Europe, when the allegations of molestation emerged. During that time, he went into hiding for several months. There is also uncertainty about whether Jordan mentioned circumcision at all, since none of the sources that confirmed the match refer to it. Lauren Weis, who took the original description and is now a judge, later confirmed the match on the Telephone Stories podcast. Lead investigator Bill Dworin also confirmed it. Dermatologist Dr. Strick, who examined Jackson during the strip search, documented the presence of unusual markings. District Attorney Tom Sneddon also confirmed it.
Lol, you sound like a conspiracy nut. Sure, it matches the description of a penis, just not one of the most easily noticeable features of his penis. And that’s easily explained by a ‘modification’ that has been asserted by people known to lie to win cases. Iron clad logic there, Sherlock.
The fact they only “raised concerns” about it, despite nothing of the sort being mentioned in the autopsy, should tell you all you need to know. If he had surgery to alter his dick, they wouldn’t have left out that shit, especially since his penis was going to be a subject of interest for this exact reason. Prosecutors can ‘raise’ whatever concerns they like, that does not mean the concern has any merit aside from trying to shape the narrative.
To expand on this point, do you think Renee Goode was trying to run over the ice officer just because that’s the way the state portrayed the event? Was Alex Pretti a threat to the officers when they disarmed and murdered him?