• CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You know they could just donate money and not kill animals right? It’s psycho to have killing be your hobby

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      3 days ago

      elephants are also pretty much enderaged, the forest elephant even moreso. they have verys low reproduction, like 22months to give birth.

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        2 days ago

        Hunting old or sick animal that cant reproduct does not effect that.

        Hunting unstable animal that kills younglins of other males only helps with this.

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        12 hours ago

        Me personally? I donate $15 a month to an older lady who keeps little old dogs out of shelters and we give $250 a month to our local humane society, we also license our pets to help fund it.

        Next question

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          8 hours ago

          Good job!

          I played the odds with my comment because statistically people who donate anything are the vast minority.

          Honest question. Not an attack. Do you get anything from donating? Like some merch or tax deductions or even a thank you note or something?

          Do you think that getting something would invalitade the whole charity?

          Most if not all exotic big game hunts are marked animals that are either dying or harmfull for the ecosystem, so they are going to shortly die to malnutrion, by being hunted by other animals or if necessary by the park ranger.

          I dont generally like trophy hunting, but i also understand that without the money it generates, places that offer it would not exist and that would mean the people running those places would not protect the animals from things like poaching or unsustainable hunting.

          Some places can make do with only charity and tourism, but many places would cease to be without the additional money.

          If trophy hunting would stop, the money rich people are spending would go somewhere else like ski trip on the alps or new yacht.

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      3 days ago

      In this view, I’d like to ask whether it is also psycho to buy dead animals in plastic from the grocery store, bring them home and cook and eat them.

      And if I may draw a parallel: “those benefactors could just donate money, why do they need a gala?“ It’s so much easier to part us from our money when we have some little reason or tangible thing (like donor gifts from public radio).

      For this big group who is all us humans, “everyone could …” prob can’t compete with “IF you do, then reward”.

      Heart: with you!

      Logical brain: “wait but the utilitarian perspective…! Minimize total suffering regardless of personal emotional discomfort!” :) (practical implication perhaps that campaign to get those hunters to keep donating but stop killing would be counterproductive to animals?? IDK how it’d pencil out!)

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      3 days ago

      Well of course. But some people want to hunt, and that desire can be the thing that tips the scale for them to get them to plunk down the money. Its the same reason NPR gives you a tote bag when you donate to them - people can carry noble intentions in their hearts, but they carry selfishness too. Effective fundraising targets both.

      And again, they are only killing animals which are already dying (as far as I know). Preserves keep track of the health of their lions and elephants and other large, popular animals. If a lion is on the verge of death, the preserve has 2 choices - watch it starve to death and get eaten by hyenas; or pop it with a rifle and kill it instantly. And if a rich white guy wants to pull the trigger in exchange for a pile of cash? Great.