My point still stands though: from the point of view of somebody living in the EU, having the UK back isn’t all that much of a gain, especially anybody who looks at how the UK voted back when they were members and even more so if the UK and its people upon returning had more rights than other EU countries and citizens (i.e. if they go their exceptions back).
IMHO, it would be literally impossible to get governments in all 27 member countries to accept that Britons should get into the EU with more rights than the citizens of those countries and you need all 27 to approve a new member since it requires an unanimous vote.
(Frankly, you as an EU citizen not knowing this shit is surprising: for me as an EU citizen living in Britain during the Leave Referendum and subsequent shit show of the Leave negotiations was highly educational about the details of how the EU operates. Were you one of those people who “would be alright either way” because of having both citizenships and voted Leave?!).
But even more simple than that: bringing Britain into the EU without it changing enough Politically and as a Society that the chances of another Brexit were very low, would be the EU setting itself for yet another such event when, say, Reform UK got enough power that a section of the Tory Party felt that anti-Europeanism would get them into power.
The Political reality of present day Britain is the rise of the complete total nutter Far-Right in the form of Reform UK and Far-right ideas so normalized that even the Labour Party is spewing anti-immigrant and transphobic rhetoric.
Even with the EU sliding rightwards, very few countries in it have an Overtoon Window so far to the right.
FWIW, I have a U.K. citizenship at this point too, so my rights in the EU and the UK are the same.
Good for you.
My point still stands though: from the point of view of somebody living in the EU, having the UK back isn’t all that much of a gain, especially anybody who looks at how the UK voted back when they were members and even more so if the UK and its people upon returning had more rights than other EU countries and citizens (i.e. if they go their exceptions back).
IMHO, it would be literally impossible to get governments in all 27 member countries to accept that Britons should get into the EU with more rights than the citizens of those countries and you need all 27 to approve a new member since it requires an unanimous vote.
(Frankly, you as an EU citizen not knowing this shit is surprising: for me as an EU citizen living in Britain during the Leave Referendum and subsequent shit show of the Leave negotiations was highly educational about the details of how the EU operates. Were you one of those people who “would be alright either way” because of having both citizenships and voted Leave?!).
But even more simple than that: bringing Britain into the EU without it changing enough Politically and as a Society that the chances of another Brexit were very low, would be the EU setting itself for yet another such event when, say, Reform UK got enough power that a section of the Tory Party felt that anti-Europeanism would get them into power.
The Political reality of present day Britain is the rise of the complete total nutter Far-Right in the form of Reform UK and Far-right ideas so normalized that even the Labour Party is spewing anti-immigrant and transphobic rhetoric.
Even with the EU sliding rightwards, very few countries in it have an Overtoon Window so far to the right.