• Signtist@bookwyr.me
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    I mean, yeah, the expectation being subverted is the bigoted parent assumption, which is overdone, but the joke is still funny. And honestly, the fact that we can look at something like this and Immediately assume that the parent isn’t bigoted means that overdoing it is making acceptance the norm in media, at least in spaces like these, which is helpful. The more we depict people being accepting of themselves and their loved ones, the better.

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        18 hours ago

        Yeah, for some reason there’s some real moral outrage required specifically for pizzacake. It’s not enough to dislike her comic but it seems like they need to vice signal as well.

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      Positive messaging is great, that’s not really the point. To reiterate: her comics are lazy as fuck.

      We can praise the message of the comic while still criticizing it according to the standards of the art form. Maybe if these comics were less successful she would be forced to improve as a comic artist.

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        Just out of curiosity, what comic isn’t lazy to you? Garfield has been around forever and he just eats lasagna and hates Mondays, that has less going on than these comics

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          Probably unless it’s high production like Hollering Elk or something, everything is ‘lazy’ to them.

          Also probably projecting because their stick figure drawings aren’t making traction like xkcd does.

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          Yeah, when did it become necessary for a comic to be more than that? When I was a kid at the library I’d always immediately go to the comics section to see if there was a Garfield book I hadn’t read yet - they’re great. Comics can have a deep message if the author wants them to, but the idea that they’re required to is kinda ridiculous. They’re just meant to be something to get a little chuckle out of the reader, like a dumb dad joke or a pun.

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          I’m glad you asked: Subnormality (Political but actually good), XKCD, Poorly Drawn Lines, Olaf (funny but NSFW), SMBC, Adamtots.

          These artists have something to say and can draw (with the exception of xkcd). There are so many examples of quality comics but you people keep upvoting slop. Yes, I am complaining about it because I actually give a shit about the medium.

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            Couldn’t you just, like… read something else though? Clearly these comics have an audience that appreciates them, and you’re not in it, and that’s okay. Pizza Cake’s comics aren’t doing any harm to the medium; all those comics you mentioned are still out there for you and everyone else to enjoy, no one is taking that away from you. It’s not some great shame to the art of comics for Pizza Cake’s content to just exist.

            Like, I love reading books, but I’m not a fan of sappy romance novels. But I’d never suggest that people writing sappy romance novels are diminishing the medium; I just ignore them and move on with my life.

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              23 hours ago

              Politely telling someone to fuck off if they don’t like it is a comforting thing to do, but is still about the weakest defense to criticism I could think of.

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            Xkcd is the anti-pizzacake. Brilliant, funny, and intelligent comics, with an art style defined by his artistic ability. Pizzacake has a decent art style, but I’m pretty sure she gets all her comic ideas from Reddit.