My partner is an AFAB enby and is struggling to get surgery for ovarian removal. They had a partial hysto a few years before we met. Before they had that surgery, while single and not wanting to have 48 day periods anymore, several male doctors delayed it because “Well what if your future husband wants kids? You’re going to deprive him of that?”
They never wanted kids. We’ve been married 8 years, we’re never having kids. My partner was sexually assaulted in high school. When she reported it, the male principle asked them “Well, what were you wearing?” They were sitting in front of him in a baggy sweater and track pants.
PC’s take in this comic is a turn of reality. Men genuinely do talk to women like this. They don’t take their health serious. They’re over reacting or emotional. It’s all in your head.
Any man who sees this comic and takes offence to it, congratulations, you’re the fucking problem.
Are those phrases in the comic based on real comments that some men tell women? Absolutely.
Panel 2 is also very similar to how men get treated when having been robbed or sexually assaulted by a woman.
Panels 3 & 4 just straight up apply to what men get told. Different phrasing to what you’d expect but the exact same result.
If you haven’t experienced it then that is awesome for you. I’m not going to focus on anecdotes here or we could be here all week and this isn’t a pissing match of who has it worse.
Someone starving on the other side of the planet wouldn’t make my hunger any better would it?
Recognising that there is a degree of shared experience here is far healthier for everyone and statements like this
Any man who sees this comic and takes offence to it, congratulations, you’re the fucking problem.
When you have zero knowledge of what someone else has experienced is only going to push them away and make their future reactions more extreme.
There is a growing divide between young men and women driven by online vitriol. It helps no one.
These experiences are all rooted in sexism and it negatively affects both men and women to differing degrees, sometimes under similar circumstances.
Nuance and understanding are far more difficult than knee-jerk rage but it is important to try.
I see where PC is coming from, but she has a blind spot for the things men hear, because she isn’t a man and hasn’t got that lived experience.
So it’s a bad take not because it’s factually wrong that women hear these things but because it is tone deaf to the fact that men get told shit like this every day.
Again… it’s not a pissing match. Having it worse doesn’t invalidate another person’s problems.
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/
Seems to be referenced fairly often by her detractors.
I’ve commented elsewhere that I think it’s a bad take.
Decide for yourself.
As a man, this comic is 100% accurate.
My partner is an AFAB enby and is struggling to get surgery for ovarian removal. They had a partial hysto a few years before we met. Before they had that surgery, while single and not wanting to have 48 day periods anymore, several male doctors delayed it because “Well what if your future husband wants kids? You’re going to deprive him of that?”
They never wanted kids. We’ve been married 8 years, we’re never having kids. My partner was sexually assaulted in high school. When she reported it, the male principle asked them “Well, what were you wearing?” They were sitting in front of him in a baggy sweater and track pants.
PC’s take in this comic is a turn of reality. Men genuinely do talk to women like this. They don’t take their health serious. They’re over reacting or emotional. It’s all in your head.
Any man who sees this comic and takes offence to it, congratulations, you’re the fucking problem.
Are those phrases in the comic based on real comments that some men tell women? Absolutely.
Panel 2 is also very similar to how men get treated when having been robbed or sexually assaulted by a woman.
Panels 3 & 4 just straight up apply to what men get told. Different phrasing to what you’d expect but the exact same result.
If you haven’t experienced it then that is awesome for you. I’m not going to focus on anecdotes here or we could be here all week and this isn’t a pissing match of who has it worse.
Someone starving on the other side of the planet wouldn’t make my hunger any better would it?
Recognising that there is a degree of shared experience here is far healthier for everyone and statements like this
When you have zero knowledge of what someone else has experienced is only going to push them away and make their future reactions more extreme.
There is a growing divide between young men and women driven by online vitriol. It helps no one.
These experiences are all rooted in sexism and it negatively affects both men and women to differing degrees, sometimes under similar circumstances.
Nuance and understanding are far more difficult than knee-jerk rage but it is important to try.
I see where PC is coming from, but she has a blind spot for the things men hear, because she isn’t a man and hasn’t got that lived experience.
So it’s a bad take not because it’s factually wrong that women hear these things but because it is tone deaf to the fact that men get told shit like this every day.
Again… it’s not a pissing match. Having it worse doesn’t invalidate another person’s problems.
Found one.
Much like I’m disappointed with PizzaCake’s comic I’m disappointed that this is your response.