So, hundreds of millions, perhaps a few billion pawns die, governments collapse, new technofascist governments rise, or…

The global South, Eastern Bloc somehow pulls off saving whatever remains and the board is reset? Is that how this plays out?

These are certainly interesting times. ¡Viva la Revolución!

Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11435977

  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    I mean, russia is actively invading a neighbour, and has a track record of stirring shit in Europe

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      Russia is defending Russian lives from literal Nazis. "Stirring shit” means defending their interests. The liberal lying propaganda is falling apart, we’re on the brink of a nuclear WW3 and you’re cheering for the fascists Business Plot techfash bros to rule whatever remains. 🤓🙄

      Your treats and nukelicking won’t save you.

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        Holy fucking shit. I hope that you are (like many others) just a bot because the thought of real people being that stupid is depressing

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        Russia invaded Ukraine. So many people have died as a result, both Ukrainians and Russians. There is no way to spin this as anything other than a horrific and evil move by Putin to attempt expansionism, and the weakness of the Russian people not to stop him.
        And it could stop. Today. All it takes is for Russia to withdraw. To stop trying to kill Ukrainians.
        Ukraine cannot stop defending itself or it will be genocided.
        Russia is hurting badly over its own stupid actions. It needs to reverse course and suck up the embarrassment.

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          Russia is defending Russian lives from being genocided by literal Nazis. Full stop.

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              It’s the truth. Mr. Down and I are having a more realistic conversation than this reactionary shit. And in the end, probably won’t agree. But we’re having the conversation.

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            Why did it wait for 2021 to fight the neo nazis? Why Putin talks about ukranian identity not existing claiming they are simply Russian? Why Putin keep talking about shared identity with Israel the worst type of nazis today?

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                You can find information’s about everything and it’s opposite. Nothing in the article show that Ukraine was going to attack Russia , there was no eminent threat. As long as the nazis in Ukraine threat stay in Ukraine then it is an Ukrainian problem not a Russian one

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                  You know better. Those are Russians who consider themselves Russian, who wanted to sacrifice neither their land nor lives. It’s neither good nor honest to accept CIA lying propaganda only when it’s convenient and dismiss the truth when it’s not. It’s a bitter pill to swallow, especially when our personal feelings are involved. Until we acknowledge that and grapple with it, we are serving masters who use those feelings and deliberate refusal to accept the truth as the pipe that plays the sweet music, leading us to our own demise, as they amass more wealth and more control. Look around you, my friend.

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                So why do you believe his excuses he used to justify the invasion of Ukraine? Starting a war require concrete eminent threat no future threats . Russia is using the same bullshit excuses as the terrorist state of Israel

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            That’s literally not the truth though. Russia is actively trying to genocide Ukrainians though. Let me know when Ukraine invades russian land, and steals kids and destroys schools and hospitals.

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              It literally is the truth and whitewashing/hiding Azov changed nothing. Even Western media was reporting about it until Ukraine was co-opped as another proxy state for another proxy war. But instead of going looking, you double, triple, quadruple down on lying propaganda. It makes me wonder what’s in it for you.

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                Its literally not the truth, this pre-emptive shit youre peddling is the same tactics Israel is using to excuse their genocide in Palestine