So, hundreds of millions, perhaps a few billion pawns die, governments collapse, new technofascist governments rise, or…
The global South, Eastern Bloc somehow pulls off saving whatever remains and the board is reset? Is that how this plays out?
These are certainly interesting times. ¡Viva la Revolución!
Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11435977
I hear you. If Putin is a literal fascist or mere tool of the fascists (which can be argued makes him a fascist), he’s certainly not invading his other neighbors, nor tried. He waited until the last possible minute to enter Ukraine. That certainly smells like oligarchic pragmatism that may have expanded to fascism, and yet, Russia didn’t enter the Ukraineian war* theatre, nor anywhere else, for that matter, until the United States and Israel started stirring the pot.
My speculation is, he wanted to amass his wealth and retire in relative obscurity and peace. But he’s not known for flapping his gums to make wishes about his personal life known, either. So that speculation is folly as well.
I believe that Russia is a threat to former urss countries but not for countries like France and Germany etc. The nato members do not care about Ukrainians or the occupation of any other territory unless it serve their imperialist ambitions .
Why do you believe that?
Because during Tucker interview Putin talked about how ukraniain identity do not exists and that they are simply russians. I don’t see why the logic do not apply to other former ussr territories
Nowhere in that interview did Putin say anything of the sort. Nor was he building up armed forces anywhere. He very patiently and pragmatically recounted history all the way back to the first century bce, and without revision. Nor did he revise any part of history until the day of the interview. Reread it yourself and copy and paste where he denied Ukraine identity.
He willingfully omitted part of history where Ukrainian ancestors had a distinct culture and history before becoming part of an Russian empire . Putin logic is it was part of Russia therefore it should always be part of Russia. He do not want a distinct independent Ukrainian identity . It is very similar rhetoric to Zionist logic of jews existed before Muslims and Arabs in the land therefore that land always belong to Jews . The only difference is Putin want russification of Ukrainians while Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians from the land.
Both Ukrainians and Russians originated from different branches of the Slavic tribes, but Ukrainians did not ‘break away’ from Russians. They are two distinct lineages that developed their own identities on different lands at the same time
I never claimed this
He didn’t leave it out at all. He said it. Plainly.
No you didn’t say it, you just claimed Russia wanted to invade their neighbors. They very clearly don’t, or would have already done it
Here is the full transcript for reference. I need to rest and prepare for my work, if I’m not back this weekend, please nudge me.
https://www.rev.com/transcripts/tucker-carlson-interviews-vladimir-putin-transcript
I either missed that or forgot it. I’m have to do some homework. Fwiw, if two Ukrainian I’ve personally known and hung out with in the past, one insisted they are Russian, the other insisted they’re Ukrainian. Neither were particularly pro or anti Russian. Putin didn’t come up much, other than an incidental.