So, hundreds of millions, perhaps a few billion pawns die, governments collapse, new technofascist governments rise, or…
The global South, Eastern Bloc somehow pulls off saving whatever remains and the board is reset? Is that how this plays out?
These are certainly interesting times. ¡Viva la Revolución!
Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11435977


Lol what? Asking what the point Putin tried to made by mentionned the history is moving the goalpost?
I also said that Putin war was unjustifiable . He hold full responsability in deciding to accept the west provocation. I believe Putin is smart so falling for the west provocation seems not realistic and it is more about using nato as an excuse to try to take control of ukraine and russify the people
Your original claim:
Which the interview clearly addressed.
Then you claimed:
Refuted
Then you claimed
You then said
To which I answered:
Yes. Moving goalposts. I posted the full transcript, for anyone to read, including yourself. Perhaps your memory is faulty and you don’t care to admit it. Perhaps you have an emotional attachment to a fallacious argument. Perhaps you have an ulterior agenda. Who knows, because you refuse to address it and argue in circles. I’ve engaged in more than good faith and you’ve done nothing of the sort, despite several attempts to understand your wild, unfounded claims. If there were any valid reasoning, you’d state them. I’ve wasted enough time on your nonsense.
The transcript confirm what I say. The history lesson that he mentionned that omit he fact that ukraine as a distinct group existed before being in any former russian kingdom is to claim that ukranians are just russians so they should be part of each other. Of course he would not say directly I want Ukraine and I will take it by force because politicians use vague language
Please copy and paste.
All the part about russian history is why I think what I think . If you have another prepesctive about why Putin mention Russian history in the topic of Ukraine please tell me
I’m asking you to refute or add missing context, for several hours now and you refuse. Please do so, because all I can fathom is dishonesty+Bandarism/emotions/some other ulterior motive, and I’ve gone out of my way for hours to try to understand your perspective, which you refuse to clarify in any form or fashion, rather just keep repeating yourself and circumlocute, which hardly inspires confidence in your motives.
Because honest history doesn’t happen in a vacuum.
I have no problem admitting Columbus was a filthy imperialist and my state was built on the genocide of aboriginal people, chattel slavery, Jim Crow. Please reciprocate, concede, or simply drop the matter. I’m busy.
The only dishonnest person here is you . I answered all your arguments while you refuse to answer questions that may change my mind
Omitting the fact that an ukranian identity before joining a russian kingdom and talking about Russisn history which is irelevant to me is refuting the idea that Putin invasion was mere self defense or to fight nazis and any other bullshit. The worst nazi right now is Israel when is Putin going to save palestinians instead of tsking pride that the ussr was one of the first country to recognize the terrorist state of Israel