So, hundreds of millions, perhaps a few billion pawns die, governments collapse, new technofascist governments rise, or…

The global South, Eastern Bloc somehow pulls off saving whatever remains and the board is reset? Is that how this plays out?

These are certainly interesting times. ¡Viva la Revolución!

Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11435977

  • Maeve@kbin.earthOP
    13·
    2 hours ago

    The only dishonnest person here is you . I answered all your arguments while you refuse to answer questions that may change my mind.

    Holy shit, I’ve answered all of them.

    Omitting the fact that an ukranian identity before joining a russian kingdom and talking about Russisn history which is irelevant to me is refuting the idea that Putin invasion was mere self defense or to fight nazis and any other bullshit

    Are you a Bandarite, yes or no?

    The worst nazi right now is Israel when is Putin going to save palestinians instead of tsking pride that the ussr was one of the first country to recognize the terrorist state of Israel.

    Israel isn’t on Russia doorstep. Nazi Ukraine is.

    • mrdown@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 hours ago

      Holy shit, I’ve answered all of them.

      You didn’t answer shit. Those are the question again

      Why did it wait for 2021 to fight the neo Nazis? Why Putin talks about Ukrainian identity not existing claiming they are simply Russian? Why Putin keep talking about shared identity with Israel the worst type of Nazis today?

      Putin is a long friend of Israel

      Sharon said Putin is a true Israel’s friend. In 2011 Putin said “Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It’s apparent that more than half of the population speaks Russian”

      During Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that “I support Israel’s battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected”

      In August 2014, Russia began increasing fruit imports from Israel, after banning food imports from the EU, Norway, United States, Canada and Australia.

      In a meeting with Netanyahu in June 2016, Putin described Israel and Russia as “unconditional allies” in "efforts to counter international terrorism

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Russia_relations

      Are you a Bandarite, yes or no?

      No

      Israel isn’t on Russia doorstep. Nazi Ukraine is.

      Nazi Ukraine never attacked Russia. Like I said if nazis within Ukraine is not attacking foreign countries it is an Ukraine problem not a Russian one .

      • Maeve@kbin.earthOP
        13·
        1 hour ago

        Nazi Ukraine never attacked Russia.

        Neither did Israel, except in the 70s. They suffered badly, for it.

        Like I said if nazis within Ukraine is not attacking foreign countries it is an Ukraine problem not a Russian one.

        It was attacking Russians who never agreed to be Ukraine. We see it differently.

        Why did it wait for 2021 to fight the neo Nazis?

        Because it was seeking diplomatic solutions. Who first broke Minsk agreement? Russia was damned either way. They waited until they couldn’t.

        Why Putin keep talking about shared identity with Israel…

        1.5 million Russians in Israel, probably.

        During Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that “I support Israel’s battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected”

        Putin is a long friend of Israel

        Sharon said Putin is a true Israel’s friend. In 2011 Putin said “Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It’s apparent that more than half of the population speaks Russian”

        During Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that “I support Israel’s battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected”

        We’re definitely in agreement, here. He should have hardened his heart against the 1.5 million Russians in Israel, which is, imo, probably why.

        In August 2014, Russia began increasing fruit imports from Israel, after banning food imports from the EU, Norway, United States, Canada and Australia.

        Any of those were a bargain with the devil. I speculate again it was for the Russian Israelis’ sake. Why do you think so?

        Thanks for answering. I really appreciate it.

        • mrdown@lemmy.world
          2·
          43 minutes ago

          Neither did Israel, except in the 70s. They suffered badly, for it.

          Russia signed the geneva and genocide convention it is an obligation to act against israel at least economically . As opposed to deal with the nazis in ukraine who did not attack another country

          1.5 million Russians in Israel, probably. Any of those were a bargain with the devil. I speculate again it was for the Russian Israelis’ sake. Why do you think so?

          They decided to live in a country still doing settler colonialism . It is not something to be proud of and shouldn’t care about their safety

          Because it was seeking diplomatic solutions. Who first broke Minsk agreement? Russia was damned either way. They waited until they couldn’t.

          The mink agreement has no clause saying if Ukraine breach it, Russia has the right to invade. Russia could do economical pressure instead.

          Why Putin talks about Ukrainian identity not existing claiming they are simply Russian?

          This is the most important question