[green, speaking, looking smug]
Okay, hear me out, here’s the plan…
We go full apathy, basically we let capitalism fully spiral out into fascism. Once it’s done, people will rise up and the system will collapse under its own weight. From its ashes, with our help, a better society will rise. This is how we win.
[we now see that green is tied up in front of a bleak wall, along with a group of other people, being aimed at by a firing squad of characters in fascist uniforms]
[green, smiling] OK?
[blue, pissed] Dude…
How many actual Bernie supporters voted for Trump? Or are you just making up a strawman to blame the left for the Democrats being incapable of winning the elections to a sex criminal or at the very least banning a fascist from elections during their mandate?
You are abso-fucking-lutely making that up. The Bolsheviks had support from workers and soldiers precisely because they advocated from the start on an unconditional retreat from WW1, which was leading to massive casualty numbers and famine. Pulling your country out of imperialist war (which they did immediately after Bolshevism won the revolution btw) is literally the opposite of accelerationism.
If by “universal” you mean male suffrage, female suffrage was I actually first implemented in the former Russian empire by the communists. The Bolsheviks organized a coup against the provisional government to pull the RSFSR out of imperialist war, and the fact that a bunch of former political prisoners and exiles had the military support to do this and maintain a stable state (and win the upcoming civil war) proves that it was the correct choice. The unelected provisional government barely survived the fascist coups that sought to reinstate the Tsar and society was growing exhausted of famine and poverty due to the wartime conditions, if you support the provisional government you’re literally arguing for Russian nationalism and militarism, blows my mind that you’d be doing this on 2026.
Look up the dates for the independence of Finland or Estonia, and tell me whether they line up with the Provisional Government or with the October Revolution, then tell me again which government was more democratic, the one keeping them under their thumb or the one drafting a constitution granting the unilateral right to self-determination and secession.
There has never been a centrist who cares.
so i was part of a group of friends in high school. we campaigned (at the high school, by wearing buttons and thinking up stupid slogans, not really getting involved in politics) for the green party because by our logic, we couldn’t convince democrats to vote republican because they were too smart for that. but we could trick them into voting green.
of my close friends group in high school, only half to 3/4 of us ever grew up. there’s one friend in particular i’m thinking of though, he was a “bernie bro” online until bernie lost. after the 2016 election he told us that he tried to commit voter fraud for the russian candidate. in a way that would get noticed and his first vote rejected, also a method that had been discussed online on forums associated with agent krasnov and promoted by agent krasnov himself, but my friend has always been a dipshit. i mean hell so have i. evidence, paragraph 1.
Well, yes, there are a few individuals doing it, that doesn’t affect my main question “how many are doing it? Is it significant?”
You have anecdotal “evidence” with a sample size of 1 and using it to make a sweeping, generalization statement.
i’m having a conversation, not making sweeping generalizations dude. get over yourself.
You are having a conversation in which you have made sweeping generalizations. Don’t be fucking stupid.
you don’t like that my experience with your group paints you badly, and so you insult me aiming to improve my opinion of your group. bravo doctor. impressive logic and reason. no wonder so many people have similar “anecdotal” evidence.
Sure, they do bud. Cause they totally aren’t just strawmen made up to support their arguments.
I never claimed to try and endear you to my group. I give zero shits how you feel about it.
Nice attempt at the psychoanalysis of a complete stranger through a single comment on the Internet by making wild assumptions about intention.
Your anecdotal experience is not proof of your bullshit strawman argument. You have no idea how logic works.
You give so zero shits you gotta keep getting on here to defend your hurt fee fee
You are literally a child.