• DredPyr8Roberts@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I think the downvotes are because the post implies that the Chinese did not kill anyone, when hundreds were murdered. What became of tank man is unknown, but it’s clear he wasn’t killed by one of those tanks.

    • deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      I heard it was millions, and that evil communist xi xingping plans of doing it again and name it the scary communist leap forward after his favorite scary communist dictator mowz dong

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          You don’t understand the scope. It was hundreds of thousands. It was hundreds of millions. Evil Chinese communism knows no bounds and will consume all. I will take all your social credit points now for myself, silly American

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          Are you being sarcastic?

          Because, and anyone correct me if I’m wrong,
          most people here know that what happened during the Tianenmen square insurrection was:

          1. Soldiers, mostly the army choir, are ordered to come unarmed and clear the square after months of students protesting in favor of Usonian state-backed exploitative economic teachings.
          2. 100+ Soldiers killed, mostly the army choir, by insurrectionists at a road adjacent to the square.
          3. Remaining army choir soldiers lead the protesters away through song from the square.
          4. 20+ Insurrectionists killed, as armed soldiers arrived and a battle broke out, on the same road.
          5. 100+ protesters killed, as a chaotic indirect consequence of the earlier insurrectionists’ actions, at a train station miles away.
          6. Tanks arrive at the square to prevent further escalation.
          7. Tanks leave the square as situation deescalated and tank man blocks the tanks for a while, then leaves, on the same road again.

          These insurrectionists went a lot further than the Usonian Jan 6th protest mostly known as the “Freedom Plaza massacre” where “peaceful protesters” entered the capitol building in order to “stop election fraud” where “perhaps 10s of thousands civilian lives were killed as US security opened fire at these peaceful protesters”, because unlike CIA-backed insurrectionists, these “peaceful protesters” were ordered by their higher ups to leave immediately instead of being encouraged to block the US army from arriving at Capitol Hill or attack the US army for that matter.

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            I think the numbers are a bit off - official Chinese figures were ~20 student protestors, ~20 police and army, and about 200 other protestors were killed.

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            Do you have a source for your estimate of deaths? 100+ is very ambiguous since it includes any number >100, which seems already beyond contention.

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              22 hours ago

              Probably the official CPC figure of 241 killed in total. Most of the serious estimates broadly agree - NSA said 180-500, and the Tiananmen Mothers organisation have identified 198 of the dead.

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                Since we’re evidently reading the same Wikipedia article, I’ll point out that those are among the lowest estimates on the page and the Beijing hospital record was 478 dead and 920 wounded.

                But these are all very different numbers from what was commented.