I’m seeing a bunch of posts insinuating that this most recent assassination attempt was fake. Why do people think this? I’m out of the loop.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    4 days ago

    I hope it’s just people running misinformation campaign to diminish any sympathy approval Trump might get out of it but reading the comments I’m not sure. Looks like at least some people really believe it.

    The only thing I would like to know is where, according to the conspiracy theorists, do they keep getting the fake shooters from? Are they brainwashed MKUltra style? Are they Trump supporters willing to go to prison for Trump? Are they actual assassins but SS knows about their plans and is not stopping them on purpose?

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      4 days ago

      To play devils advocate: alphabet groups are notorious for setups, extortion, threats and more. There’s large collections of declassified documents from these organizations detailing such.

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        There are plenty of people calling for violence right now. Find a few disaffected male 20-somethings already leaning towards those ideas, groom them to see if any will go further, coordinate a plan with them, and you can have an “unscripted” but predictable attack. I don’t think that part is unbelievable, although I don’t personally have a strong feeling on if this particular attack was staged.

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        I guess it is possible they just keep extorting and threatening people to assassinate public figures. Any actual examples of that from the past that we know off? Something that was declassified? (it’s not a counter argument. it’s possible they set up people to commit different crimes in the past and started with the assassinations only recently).

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      I’m a fairly reasonable, educated (masters), Millennial (i.e., have some life experience). I think it could be a false flag conspiracy. The fact that I think it’s possibly credible that the current president of the USA could have arranged (or, rather, he had it arranged) a fake threat on his life is an indication that the office is the president and the US government around it has no credibility. The lies every day that sometimes contradict not only actual evidence, but what their own offices said just the day or days before. Not to say anything of the moral bankruptcy and corruption on display every day.

      If it’s real (and I’m not saying it is, only that it is not outside the realm of credibility, given what we’ve seen), there are many die-hard Trumpers who, essentially, worship him. The images of him being embraced by Jesus and then as Jesus were not the end of him, were they? We only need to consider J6 where people expected to take a took a day off work, overthrow the government and maybe kill some Democrats, and then what? Return to work the next Day? They expected Trump to be installed as president and face no consequences.

      More recently, look at ICE. Pro-Trump “irregular immigrants” still expect Trump to personally exempt, protect, and pardon them.

      Trump has and does pardon true and real criminals. If I were a Trump worshipper, and told he personally asked me to do this, and he would use his power to protect me, I would probably to it. Only I’m not a delusional Trump worshiper.

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        If I were a Trump worshipper, and told he personally asked me to do this, and he would use his power to protect me, I would probably to it.

        This doesn’t make sense. If Trump pardons him he will basically admin that it was stages. The “worshiper” would have to be willing to go to prison for Trump and never, ever admin it was a set up. He would most likely be shot during the stages attack as part of a cover up.

        I agree that with this administration false flag is possible but that’s not really a valid argument. The question is not if their morality would allow them to do it but if they are capable of staging and successfully covering something like this up and if their are motivated enough to attempt it. For me the answer to both questions is “I don’t think so”. I don’t think Kash Patel is able to stage it and I don’t think Trump is worried about his approval enough to attempt it.

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          My dude, Trump worship doesn’t make sense to begin with, and yet, here we are. You can’t use logic and reason in a situation that has no logic and reason.

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        Things like this happen all the time and not just in US but:

        1. They don’t let those people actually run around with guns or plant bombs, they get arrested before that
        2. Involvement of the agency is revealed in court because hiding it wold endanger the trial

        Agency secretly persuading someone to assassinate the president and actually letting them attempt it is something next level. It sounds a little bit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI5_YuCWTMA

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      Looks like at least some people really believe it.

      Yeah a lot of people in this comment section seem to be going off vibes alone but can’t seem to point to any concrete evidence that suggests it was faked. Which is kinda annoying because that’s the whole reason why I made this thread. I wanted to hear these guys out but they still aren’t explaining it

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        Do people actually believe it, or have they just hit a point where continued acceptance of his narrative makes you feel complicit, so it feels easier to deny his narrative.

        Like another poster said, he has a massive credibility issue.