The land billionaires are salivating to carve up, log and develop? That land?
EDIT: I realized that this comment seems a little to pessimistic and doomer. I didn’t mean it to sound like we should just roll over and accept that these beautiful areas are taken from us and others. We absolutely need to fight back, and you’d be surprised, that even most conservatives (save for the ultra-MAGA people) actually care about this land too and are deeply against it being privatized.
Now… Does that also say something about them caring less about POC than land, yes. But this is one of those issues you really don’t have to push very hard to get people to care about. Even if they’re not annual park visitors, a very large chunk of citizens in the US seem to care about this.
We just can’t get a break from you guys, can we? Doesn’t matter what the discussion is about, it always gets turned into US political grievances. This is what’s killing this platform and making every sane person leave.
This is a post about the legality of resting in different areas (apparently in the US), it’s inherently political.
I could understand if this were a sub about bunnies or something, but it’s not. I don’t think the fediverse is dying, and I dodn’t think you have to seek out reasons to clutch your pearls and be offended that people dare talk about the politics that affect their lives…
It’s a showerthoughts community. Nobody subscribes here for politics. There’s a time and place for that kind of discussion and this isn’t it and clearly I’m not the only one feeling that way.
So glad you get to live in a world where you get to ignore politics. Also, I’m assuming you live in another country, and that’s why you’re frustrated things default to the US. So do I. I fucking hate that the US Empire has Earth by the balls, though that is ending (thankfully).
And unfortunately, anything billionaires do here is often a sort of trial run for other countries. These assholes (Tech Asshole Billionaires, Heritage Foundation and theocratic asshats, Trump and Wallstreet, etc) want to carve up this entire fucking world and enslave us, like full on chattel slavery. That is, those of us they haven’t sent to death camps. We need to do everything we can to stop this.
You might not be a leftist, so the term endstage capitalism may or may not mean anything. But we are living in those times, and a few outcomes await us. One of them being techo-feudalism and surveillance dystopia, or a better world where we break this shit apart. Either way, politics is quickly affecting every single aspect of your life, because these assholes want to privatize every single minutia of your life if they can.
Maybe one day we can sit back and ignore ‘politics’ (as they are defined now), but until then, I believe we have a LOT of work to do.
It’s not a binary choice between consuming all the politics or none of it. It can be done on your own terms when you choose to, rather than being perpetually consumed by it all day every day. That’s an extremely unhealthy media diet that nobody should advocate for.
But it’s not consumption of media that’s the issue here. You’re offended that we’re mentioning political issues in a post about legality. You can ignore what you want, but everyone else doesn’t have to be silent or pretend they’re unrelated to make you happy.
I actually hear you and greatly sympathize with this. I absolutely need days when I just don’t pay attention to the news or politics, outside of my local community organizing and action. I really look forward to a world where politics means what the etymology does “the dealings of the city”, and not catastrophic, firehose levels of information about every single thing, each one of which is existential. I look forward, and work towards, a day when either I or those who come after me (don’t have kids and won’t) live in a society where politics means mostly things like planting community gardens, neighborhood groups, and distribution of commodities in a local environment. Where even the bigger issues are amazing, like high speed rail and massive green energy projects, space stations, and megastructures that benefit all, not just the elite.
I really want you to know that I really feel where you are coming from, and I desperately want this torrent to stop. It feels so inundating and all encompassing. I applaud you for taking days where you recharge and take a break. In a sense, there is a privilege involved to those of us who can afford to do so, but also I will use that privilege for that, so that I can then go and also use it to fight back and make a change.
I can only speak for myself here, but it’s not even about taking days off. It’s about protecting the remaining non-political places from being poisoned by political discussion. There are so many more appropriate places for it than the Showerthoughts community. I don’t think anyone subscribes here for politics - rather as an escape from them.
It’s just my one-man fight against the wind. I keep at it not because it makes a difference but because I care. Still, if I manage to make even a few people more conscious of it when posting, I consider my efforts worthwhile.
I also apologize for my harshness. I aspire to one day be able to take criticism the way you did.
It’s actually BURNlNG MAN land with a typo’d lowercase L that’s gonna unnoticed but it’s too late to change the records now.
(burning Man is on BLM land and happens to also be where the land speed record is currently held - salt lake city salt flats weren’t big enough, apparently)
For the fellow east-of-the-mississippi and not-US folks. The US Bureau of Land Management (BLM) operates public lands with fairly loose rules about use, including camping up to 14 days.
Blm land? National forest? Can lay around for 14 days straight.
The land billionaires are salivating to carve up, log and develop? That land?
EDIT: I realized that this comment seems a little to pessimistic and doomer. I didn’t mean it to sound like we should just roll over and accept that these beautiful areas are taken from us and others. We absolutely need to fight back, and you’d be surprised, that even most conservatives (save for the ultra-MAGA people) actually care about this land too and are deeply against it being privatized.
Now… Does that also say something about them caring less about POC than land, yes. But this is one of those issues you really don’t have to push very hard to get people to care about. Even if they’re not annual park visitors, a very large chunk of citizens in the US seem to care about this.
Yep, enjoy it while you can!
We just can’t get a break from you guys, can we? Doesn’t matter what the discussion is about, it always gets turned into US political grievances. This is what’s killing this platform and making every sane person leave.
This is a post about the legality of resting in different areas (apparently in the US), it’s inherently political.
I could understand if this were a sub about bunnies or something, but it’s not. I don’t think the fediverse is dying, and I dodn’t think you have to seek out reasons to clutch your pearls and be offended that people dare talk about the politics that affect their lives…
It’s a showerthoughts community. Nobody subscribes here for politics. There’s a time and place for that kind of discussion and this isn’t it and clearly I’m not the only one feeling that way.
So glad you get to live in a world where you get to ignore politics. Also, I’m assuming you live in another country, and that’s why you’re frustrated things default to the US. So do I. I fucking hate that the US Empire has Earth by the balls, though that is ending (thankfully).
And unfortunately, anything billionaires do here is often a sort of trial run for other countries. These assholes (Tech Asshole Billionaires, Heritage Foundation and theocratic asshats, Trump and Wallstreet, etc) want to carve up this entire fucking world and enslave us, like full on chattel slavery. That is, those of us they haven’t sent to death camps. We need to do everything we can to stop this.
You might not be a leftist, so the term endstage capitalism may or may not mean anything. But we are living in those times, and a few outcomes await us. One of them being techo-feudalism and surveillance dystopia, or a better world where we break this shit apart. Either way, politics is quickly affecting every single aspect of your life, because these assholes want to privatize every single minutia of your life if they can.
Maybe one day we can sit back and ignore ‘politics’ (as they are defined now), but until then, I believe we have a LOT of work to do.
It’s not a binary choice between consuming all the politics or none of it. It can be done on your own terms when you choose to, rather than being perpetually consumed by it all day every day. That’s an extremely unhealthy media diet that nobody should advocate for.
But it’s not consumption of media that’s the issue here. You’re offended that we’re mentioning political issues in a post about legality. You can ignore what you want, but everyone else doesn’t have to be silent or pretend they’re unrelated to make you happy.
I actually hear you and greatly sympathize with this. I absolutely need days when I just don’t pay attention to the news or politics, outside of my local community organizing and action. I really look forward to a world where politics means what the etymology does “the dealings of the city”, and not catastrophic, firehose levels of information about every single thing, each one of which is existential. I look forward, and work towards, a day when either I or those who come after me (don’t have kids and won’t) live in a society where politics means mostly things like planting community gardens, neighborhood groups, and distribution of commodities in a local environment. Where even the bigger issues are amazing, like high speed rail and massive green energy projects, space stations, and megastructures that benefit all, not just the elite.
I really want you to know that I really feel where you are coming from, and I desperately want this torrent to stop. It feels so inundating and all encompassing. I applaud you for taking days where you recharge and take a break. In a sense, there is a privilege involved to those of us who can afford to do so, but also I will use that privilege for that, so that I can then go and also use it to fight back and make a change.
I can only speak for myself here, but it’s not even about taking days off. It’s about protecting the remaining non-political places from being poisoned by political discussion. There are so many more appropriate places for it than the Showerthoughts community. I don’t think anyone subscribes here for politics - rather as an escape from them.
It’s just my one-man fight against the wind. I keep at it not because it makes a difference but because I care. Still, if I manage to make even a few people more conscious of it when posting, I consider my efforts worthwhile.
I also apologize for my harshness. I aspire to one day be able to take criticism the way you did.
i mean, this post is explicitly political tho?
If you think this is exclusive to the US you’re denser than a brick.
Black Lives Matter land?
It’s actually BURNlNG MAN land with a typo’d lowercase L that’s gonna unnoticed but it’s too late to change the records now.
(burning Man is on BLM land and happens to also be where the land speed record is currently held - salt lake city salt flats weren’t big enough, apparently)
For the fellow east-of-the-mississippi and not-US folks. The US Bureau of Land Management (BLM) operates public lands with fairly loose rules about use, including camping up to 14 days.
Sorry, it’s just one of my favorite lines from White Lotus.