French protestors says Windows 10's ESU will only leave users in the lurch, potentially rendering millions of PCs obsolete as they upgrade to Windows 11.
French activists staged a funeral for Windows 10 to protest Microsoft’s push toward Windows 11 and planned obsolescence.
The “archaic devices” framing of the article seems questionable to me. I don’t think a device from around 9 years ago (Ryzen Gen 1) is archaic. While these are going to be low end now they often are still perfectly usable if they were somewhat higher end at the time. They don’t lack anything a modern system should need, which is easily proven by Linux running on them just fine.
I agree. I probably would’ve disagreed 15 years ago - 2001 hardware would’ve felt archaic by 2010.
Hardware made 10 years ago is, for the average person, likely good enough to get them through another decade, if the accompanying software was kept lean. But that kinda thinking doesn’t help bank accounts swell, does it…
My PC is only like, 5 years old and Windows 11 doesn’t support it. Windows 10 ran smoothly, it does RTX, modern games run fine on it, the most graphically intensive AAA games run a little poorly but still run nonetheless, and I can always lower the graphics settings to get better performance. It’s certainly more powerful and higher spec than a lot of the office PCs that do run Windows 11. Buuuut the motherboard doesn’t have a TPM 2.0 chip so it’s archaic e-waste as far as Microsoft is concerned. It’s been running Linux just fine for the last year and a half or so, and not once have I ever felt that my PC is too old and needs to be upgraded or replaced.
For what it’s worth, I have a system with first-gen Zen cores (Threadripper 1900X). 8 cores at 3.8GHz. Not too shabby even now. It’s just got a higher power draw than the newer chips. Got a fairly decent price on it on Black Friday of 2017. (Never ran Windows on it, though.)
My desktop which is running a i7-6700k from 2015 out performs all of the <$400 laptops that I could find on every metric and had higher multi core but lower single core for the $400-$600 range. I was unable to find a desktop that was <$800 that was better, so I would surmize that the desktop market won’t have a meaningful price/performance % in comparison to the laptops.
At the very least with the insanity of graphics & memory prices at the moment, the budget systems are getting smoked by a desktop from 2015, even while purposefully omitting the 2070 I have because that was a newer addition and pretty much all of the systems are running poor quality integrated graphics anyway.
The “archaic devices” framing of the article seems questionable to me. I don’t think a device from around 9 years ago (Ryzen Gen 1) is archaic. While these are going to be low end now they often are still perfectly usable if they were somewhat higher end at the time. They don’t lack anything a modern system should need, which is easily proven by Linux running on them just fine.
I agree. I probably would’ve disagreed 15 years ago - 2001 hardware would’ve felt archaic by 2010.
Hardware made 10 years ago is, for the average person, likely good enough to get them through another decade, if the accompanying software was kept lean. But that kinda thinking doesn’t help bank accounts swell, does it…
My PC is only like, 5 years old and Windows 11 doesn’t support it. Windows 10 ran smoothly, it does RTX, modern games run fine on it, the most graphically intensive AAA games run a little poorly but still run nonetheless, and I can always lower the graphics settings to get better performance. It’s certainly more powerful and higher spec than a lot of the office PCs that do run Windows 11. Buuuut the motherboard doesn’t have a TPM 2.0 chip so it’s archaic e-waste as far as Microsoft is concerned. It’s been running Linux just fine for the last year and a half or so, and not once have I ever felt that my PC is too old and needs to be upgraded or replaced.
How does an “archaic” high-end Ryzen computer compare to your average Windows 11 enabled $400 Walmart computer today?
Update
Compatible: Trash Walmart best-seller in 500 carts
Incompatible: Dell XPS 13 (late 2017)
For what it’s worth, I have a system with first-gen Zen cores (Threadripper 1900X). 8 cores at 3.8GHz. Not too shabby even now. It’s just got a higher power draw than the newer chips. Got a fairly decent price on it on Black Friday of 2017. (Never ran Windows on it, though.)
My desktop which is running a i7-6700k from 2015 out performs all of the <$400 laptops that I could find on every metric and had higher multi core but lower single core for the $400-$600 range. I was unable to find a desktop that was <$800 that was better, so I would surmize that the desktop market won’t have a meaningful price/performance % in comparison to the laptops. At the very least with the insanity of graphics & memory prices at the moment, the budget systems are getting smoked by a desktop from 2015, even while purposefully omitting the 2070 I have because that was a newer addition and pretty much all of the systems are running poor quality integrated graphics anyway.