• quips@slrpnk.net
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    11 hours ago

    How is eating meat not morally wrong? Or not a moral issue?

    Like genuinely does anyone understand how someone could think that?

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      4 hours ago

      Do you think cats are immoral? They will most certainly suffer if not die if fed a vegetarian diet.

      It’s not a stretch for someone to think animals eating animals is not a moral issue and it’s not a moral issue for humans, another animal, to do the same.

      If you hold humas to a higher standard then I applaud you for your conviction but I think this survey shows we aren’t really above animals

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      8 hours ago

      It’s about the scope of the question.

      Eating meat has been natural to humans and their ancestors for about 3 million years. But we have never processed, presented and eaten meat in the way and on the scale that we are doing it today.

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      10 hours ago

      I have a milk cow and it dies of old age. Would it be morally wrong for me to eat it? Just throwing the meat away is morally right?

      It’s not a question on how the animals are treated. It’s just the morality of eating meat.

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        10 hours ago

        Sure but 99.99% of store meat is not this. Its factory farmed animals stacked in pens living in their own piss and shit their entire lives just before they are slaughtered young

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          Yes, and we can argue all day long about the morality of that specific way of raising animals for meat, but that doesn’t touch the question of whether or not it’s moral to eat meat in general.

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              They just did.

              Eating meat = a neutral action that has no moral dilemma.

              How we produce meat products = a large and complex question that does pose an ethical/moral dilemma centered around methods of production.

              How is that so hard to understand?

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        10 hours ago

        I’ve had someone try to tell me that plants feel pain and scream when they die.

        Okay dawg, but I know I’d rather mow my lawn than mow over a field of pigs.

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          I’m not entirely dismissive of the argument. I do think it has a point. Why do pigs get to live? Because they look vaguely like us? Fuck you wheat! You eyeless, legless monstrosity! I don’t care how much you enjoy swaying in the wind and basking in the sun. You’re literally toast!

          Everything wants to live and is afraid to die. But I do agree dying screaming pigs is much more unsettling than millions of wheat stalks getting slaughtered by a combine.

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            The logical next question becomes: why do you get to live? Everything wants to live and is afraid to die. You aren’t special.

            This line of argumentation leads to nihilism at its conclusion: nothing matters, everything is permitted, kill whatever you want.

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              That’s a simple minded misunderstanding of nihilism. It is not a license to just do whatever with no consequences or consideration.

              Nothing matters, because there is no such thing as divine law or morality, so it doesn’t matter what you choose to matter to you. That’s entirely your opinion to have and dictate your life around. We are free to shape our own reality and morals.

              You’re right. We aren’t special in the grand scheme. Humans are just another animal in the ecosystem. But I am me and I choose to care about myself, so I choose to care about whether I live or die.

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          7 hours ago

          You also save plants by eating plants directly instead of indirectly via animals

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      The downvotes on this are both funny and telling. I like it so its good. Asking if its bad is bad.

      I’m actually starting to see the point in a weird way. If they think about as critically as a dog or a cat maybe it doesn’t make sense to hold their decisions to a higher moral standard. We don’t call it immoral when non-human animals rape other non-human animals because they aren’t capable of the level of thought required to conceptualize moral decisions. But, uh, neither are significant amounts of humans apparently.

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          Are you saying that a person is the same as food that is readily available? Not really smart are you?

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            Rare to see someone so incapable of critical thought lmao

            My logic sounds absurd when you apply it to a different example? why would you use a different example, that makes it sound dumb

            it’s fine to eat because it’s food and it’s food because it’s fine to eat. simple as

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              You’re a fuckin moron. It’s rare to meet someone that thinks they are intellectual when they are threatening a person’s existence to prove a point. Which isn’t a point. It’s a threat and a shitty one at that. Because I would kick the living shit out of you if you dared to say it to my face.

              So fuck off. And shut the fuck up you weak minded idiot.