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I once said this to someone and their response was that human nature prevents it on earth but in heaven all the bad people like that don’t get in. To which I replied “So all the communists are in heaven and all the capitalists who scream about human nature are in hell?”
Were they really pissed at your response?
They haven’t spoken to me about religion or politics since
Lmao
CAPITALIST HELL:
COMMUNISTSOCIAL DEMOCRACY HEAVEN:
I saw an evangelist once say that people will work in heaven.
I wrote a short story about how Heaven is basically just a massive factory building bombs to drop onto Hell
This is so Heaven can stage raids on Hell to steal more materials to build more bombs
My seventh grade teacher had me see the school therapist
i would unironically read that webcomic
You must have had a good understanding of imperial geopolitics from a young age.
I watched a lot of movies and read a lot of books, so probably
You should touch it up and put it out! That premise goes incredibly hard.
Ms. Doborosky said it was representative of my fear of being stripped of my individuality
I was just trying to be edgy
Found VivsiePop’s account.
First of all, how dare you
Second of all, how dare you
Thirdly, i wish
I once asked my dad what he thought gods kingdom on earth would be like (this is post end-times evangelical shit) and he tried to tell me that it would basically be the same. I was like wow that’s really unimaginative and incredibly bleak, like we’re talking about god who can end scarcity and you think you’ll still be going to McDonald’s screaming at min wage workers bc they left a pickle on your burger? I really was kinda painful laughing that this was the garbage he wanted me to accept growing up (I clearly had a much different idea of what god wanted than my parents).
After that he tried to pretend that it was gonna be a post scarcity world when he would mention the glorious future kingdom of god here on earth, but unfortunately he tends to bullshit me as a way to peddle this nonsense. It’s sad seeing these people warp what good Christianity could be (someone is going to read this sentence and get triggered, yes don’t worry I know) into something that just reinforces hierarchy and suffering.
I was a devout Catholic many centuries ago and let me tell you that when I did believe in god nothing made me feel more twisted and weird (and condemnatory, at the time) than finding out how small the evangelical god is
I would flat out tell them that their god is so small and petulant and trifling that he isn’t worthy of worship. I denied we worshipped the same god. And I really still don’t believe it even as an atheist. It’s just self worship and when the person selling you it has a small imagination you get a very small god. Womp womp, sucks to suck, etc
He’s in good company, Hegel thought that the ultimate goal of dialectics, the perfect idea that all of history strives toward had already be accomplished in the Prussian monarchy. Which just happened to be the system he lived comfortably in.
Wow! That’s protestant work ethic taken to the extreme. Imagine if he got what he believed in.
Like how, in Terry Pratchetts Discworld, people who die get whatever afterlife they believe in. Not what they want or what they’d like to believe they deserve, but what the true consequence of their believes in combination with their true believe about their own character would be. There’s this which, who lived a really good, ethical live, but is an atheist, so she’ll get nothing. DEATH likes her, so he politely informes her, upon her departing, that she could have any eternal live she chooses. Pleasure, wisdom, anything, for ever. Just choose a believe and a god* you like. And she’s just like nah, I already knew that, and I chose to have my consciousness disperse and my body nourish the earth and become part of all nature and universal consciousness. And her spirit happily spreads out, thinning and becomes part of everything.
*On Discworld, all gods are real, but draw there power from the people who believe in them. Atheists know that and choose not to believe, mostly to spite the gods.
Whats crazy is these same christians will be against relieving suffering since it would go against “god’s plan”
Just the most evil ones.
Ooh, baby, do you know what that’s worth?
Ooh, Heaven is a place on Earth
They say in Heaven, love comes first
We’ll make Heaven a place on Earth
Ooh, Heaven is a place on EarthMatt Christman has entire cushvlogs about this.
he also talks about the other side of it and how capitalism is in the process of creating hell on earth (in the social isolation, suffering, and climate senses)
