The phenomenon of sovereign citizens persistently trying to win court cases with their principles, despite a lack of success, is indeed puzzling. On YouTube alone, there are around 5,000 videos showing sovereign citizens facing defeat in the courtroom. These individuals often make claims that have yet to prove successful and frequently end up incarcerated.

Why do people continue to adopt this seemingly futile approach? It’s akin to watching 5,000 parachutists attempt a failed jump from the Eiffel Tower, only for newcomers to keep trying despite knowing, or perhaps ignoring, the inevitable outcome. Despite the growing pile of mangled bodies at the base of the tower, every day people decide to climb up and try for themselves.

The dedication of these individuals is noteworthy; they invest a great deal of time mastering the intricacies of their “sovereign” defense. Yet, it seems that they dedicate little time to researching previous legal outcomes or understanding why their arguments haven’t held up in court historically.

What drives this persistence? Is it a deep-seated belief system that overrides rational analysis, or is there another factor at play that encourages them to keep going despite overwhelming evidence of failure?

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    19 hours ago
    1. They DO see people claiming success.

    These include scammers, and suckers who don’t want to admit they’re wrong.

    1. Their sovcit actions DO occasionally lead to success.

    The rare success isn’t due to it being valid, but rather because the officials don’t want to deal with a crazy person. For example police sometimes let sovcit people out of getting a ticket because sovcits can be dangerous wackos and the cop just doesn’t want to deal with them. Another example is sometimes a government clerk will actually file an actually useful form to do a thing even when the sovcit tries to file some crazy nonsense form.

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      Sovcits love to video every single interaction with the police. Certainly if they were having large amounts of tickets or infractions dismissed, they’d be #1 hits on YouTube. Yet, in every single video you can find, it’s a big loss for the sovcits.

      They’d be the first one to advertise all these “wins” against “the system” but they have failed to appear… why is that?

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        I’ve done a search on this before and there’s plenty of stuff where cop organizations say sovcits can be armed and dangerous and it’s not worth it for them to engage the person

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          Again, there’d be loads of videos from the sovcits themselves “Watch me beat this ticket in 20 seconds!!” For people that love to film themselves, you think there’d be so many examples of people getting infractions dismissed if it is as common as you say.

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            I specifically said it was rare. And i would bet that if the cop is being filmed then they’d be much more likely to follow through on giving the ticket. And the avoidance can happen before there’s even a filmable interaction with the police, like the cop choosing not to pull over a car that has a sovcit fake license plate