• vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    They have moved to the right every single election since Jimmy Carter, win or lose.

    This election did not make a difference in that regard. FFS Bill Clinton’s ENTIRE FUCKING CAMPAIGN AND PRESIDENCY, was bending over backwards sucking off the conservative voting base trying to convince them the ‘southern democrats’ have risen again.

    • midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      4 days ago

      I know you’re not the original replyer, but they were making an argument for how to move the party to the left by not voting, and you’re saying that’s impossible anyways.

      I guess I kinda agree with you more, politics is about making the best possible choice, and sometimes that means voting for a conservative when the alternative is fascist. If everything is fucked and there’s no way for the dems to move left like you say, then the only option is to slow down the collapse into fascism. Harm reduction. But I don’t know if I agree things are so hopeless, I believe in pushing socialism 24/7 up until about October of an election year.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        But I don’t know if I agree things are so hopeless, I believe in pushing socialism 24/7 up until about October of an election year.

        Then start. “Shut up and vote for genocide” isn’t socialism.

      • vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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        4 days ago

        Actually I’m not suggesting not voting. I’m suggesting not voting for genocidal fascists because they have a different tie. We have tried your way for LITERALLY OVER A CENTURY. IT DOES NOT WORK.