Include a basic definition of what you consider trolling. Because people seem to deem a huge variety of things trolling. Silly comments are fine but no direct personal insults.

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    people are getting rounded up, detained, murdered. we are in another pointless war. whatever checks and balances there ever were in government are gone.

    i will not agree that my (or anyone’s) trolling of nazis has had any part in these outcomes, in fact, letting these people run amok without calling them out, i think, led more to it than anything else.

    i understand you’re mad, but like many other “let’s try ‘talking’ to these nazis” or “let’s just ignore them” people, you’re mad about the wrong thing

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      The above poster at least brought a reference. Here’s another covering the backfire effect in general https://psychotricks.com/backfire-effect/

      People are a tricky problem. They don’t often work the way one would think, and certainly not the way we might wish. I think it’s a fair position to take that the social media environment, and the way people with opposing views interact there, has had a non-negligible impact on the rise in extreme views. That definitely includes trolling.

      But here I am offering a differing opinion with a reference in support of the backfire effect, which is some next-level irony.

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        don’t worry, the science one would use to counter nazi viewpoints (climate science, health science (e.g., vaccine safety), LGBTQ studies, etc) is being actively obliterated by the regime put in power by the people we’ve been trying to talk rationally to for decades. the eventual outcome is of course that there will be no trolling or disagreement, only compliance with the party’s whims

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          Are you completely unilaterally in support of everything on the left and believe everyone/thing on the right is equivalent to 1940s nazis? (Currently)

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            Are you completely unilaterally in support of everything on the left

            no. that’s a separate discussion that would be a waste of time in a fascist state

            believe everyone/thing on the right is equivalent to 1940s nazis?

            does it matter? they’re not calling their detention centers “concentration camps,” but that’s what they are. people are dying, “illegal” or not. for the crime of not being 100% white. no consequences for anyone causing these deaths (or any other crime–are you familiar with the epstein files?). because that’s how it is in a fascist state