I am trying to choose an email provider, to use with my identifying accounts (like banks, gov ids, etc.). I feel that emails for such cases do not need to be end-to-end encrypted, since most information would already be present with banks, gov, etc.
So I was looking at non-E2EE emails - Mailbox and Posteo.
- Between Posteo and Mailbox - which one do you use / is better in terms of privacy?
I noticed that both of these are hosted in Germany. With rise in popularity of right wing party, a bunch of stuff around chat control and verification, and even normal German government support for Israel, I was wondering whether I should look for other solutions hosted elsewhere. Or use Proton / Tuta instead?
Also, I am not sure if any of these companies support right-wing or Israel themselves?
Do you have any suggestions regarding this?
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I’m extremely satisfied with mailbox.org!
They support all standard email protocols (IMAP, POP3, SMTP) even Sieve for server-side filters, so you can use any mail client you prefer rather than being locked into official apps. They offer CardDAV for contacts and CalDAV for calendars, and their drive can be mounted via WebDAV.
Pricing is reasonable and personal domains are supported.
Isn’t Tuta based in Germany anyway?
I moved from Proton to Mailbox.org a few days ago. Normal IMAP was one of the reasons. Another was feeling of being slowly locked in a walled garden. Plus, it’s more expensive.
Anyway, with Mailbox.org it’s also possible to encrypt your whole inbox with OpenPGP. Maybe it’s not on the same level like Proton, but it uses an open standard.
https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/encryption/your-encrypted-mailbox/
The government isn’t the only threat e2ee protects against. When a non-e2ee service is hacked, the data is free for the taking, if the service is e2ee the data is only available from that moment forward. I’m not going to speak for which provider you should use, but you should reconsider needing e2ee.
Proton gives you several emails to use, along with aliasing. They’re not free though. I use my personal domain for personal stuff.
I’ve been using Kolab Now for about a year and while it’s not sexy I love that their servers are 100% in Switzerland. Some others (like Proton) might be based in great jurisdictions but still have servers outside them which makes no sense to me.
I’m a proponent for purelymail if you own a domain
Tuta over Proton. Proton is making a beeline for mega corp status. They’re only “privacy focused” on the surface. They host outside of their country, happily hand over user data when asked, keep adding paid apps instead of locking down the core ones with better security, and make comments on politics (a big sign they’re looking beyond their current state in hopes of an IPO some day.
IPOs are the death knell for a company. It’s the cutting of the enshittification ribbon! 🎀
Proton is legally required to hand over certain user data, which I wouldn’t describe as happily given how much they fight or deny the requests. Proton itself does not comment on politics, the CEO of the for-profit company does. His opinion does not represent Proton in both the non-profit and for-profit part. Proton AG (the service provider) is majority owned by the Proton Foundation. The non-profit side forces the for-profit side to put ethics above profits while allowing the for-profit side to have the benefits of being for-profit. I doubt the non-profit would green light an IPO.
I’ve been using Proton and have been happy in general, but I agree with the sentiment. It feels like they are on a negative trajectory and are doing little to assuage that feeling. If I was picking a new privacy suite now it would probably be Tuta + Mullvad.
I was an ultimate plan subscriber for two years. Just left this year after some digging.
Proton’s CEO essentially supported MAGA as well.
The article doesn’t debunk anything whatsoever. Pointing to the CEO being Asian to counter him supporting MAGA is insane. His posts from the years prior also matter little, because every tech bro, including even Musk, positioned himself as a liberal for years and donated to all the causes until it became more convenient and profitable to side with MAGA.
But it’s neither convenient nor profitable for Andy Yen to start siding with politics. Not that his political affiliations would matter anyways, as the non-profit is legally required to be politically neutral, which in turn forces the for-profit to act similarly.
