• DisasterTransport@startrek.website
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      19 hours ago

      Alright but apart from the sugar and the fiber and the antioxidants and the vitamins and the minerals and the enzymes, what has fruit ever done for us?

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      17 hours ago

      More than what’s in meat and vegetables? 🤔

      It’s there any fruit with more vitamins and such things than you can find in a corresponding vegetable or meat?

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        16 hours ago

        Complex answers there due to bioavailability, combinations, and palatability. Cow liver has lots of vitamin A but it is liver. Carrots have a lot of A if you eat good fats with them. Sea Buckthorn has more than you need but you also get v.C and lots of other nutrients and it’s a candy.

        Also as primates we are built for fruit.

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          16 hours ago

          Complex indeed.

          Could you explain a bit more about what being “built for fruit” means? Built more for fruit than other things or just built to “handle” it?

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            14 hours ago

            Well it’s just a major part of many primate species’ diets, including hominids. Your mileage may vary depending on gut flora etc but humans eat a lot of fruits in general.

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              12 hours ago

              Just because we do as humans doesn’t mean it’s the most nutritious. Look at the diet of koalas for example.

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                7 hours ago

                “Nutrition” comes in many forms; I am fine with high density antioxidants and vitamins (more dense in some fruits than most if not all veg and meat) that are candy.

                You have a strange opposition to fruit. Go prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit and come back with the evidence.

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                  4 hours ago

                  You have a strange opposition to fruit. Go prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit and come back with the evidence.

                  LCHF. My mother’s been on it for over a decade, never felt better, she says. Lots of ailments she had went away as well.

                  I’m not opposed to fruit, there’s stuff in fruit we need. I’m just saying they’re probably not the best source of those things because it comes with the cost of extra stuff we don’t need, like sugars and fiber.

                  You can probably get more of those antioxidants and vitamins in berries rather than fruit, going by the colloquial definition of “fruit”.

                  I’m also not in LCHF, but I never eat fruit and I’m healthy af. Only on special occasions, like maybe a melon, or a mango or something. Never regularly.

                  I have a slight iron deficiency but that’s from birth and fruit won’t help me there, I imagine.

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                    27 minutes ago

                    Not including berries in “fruit” is weird AF.

                    Saying we don’t need fibre is just deeply misinformed.

                    Anecdotal evidence, universalized, is often just rationalization. I believe you about your experience. I don’t think you can generalize accurately withit.