• orenj [he/they]@leminal.space
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    Alright one of you who know whats up, whats the deal with lucifer and satan? They’re different figures, right? Whats with the christians using them interchangeably? And why dont they throw Mammon into the ‘same guy’ umbrella term of ‘the devil’ too?

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      No, Lucifer and Satan are the same entity. Satan’s name before he was cast out of heaven for heresy was Lucifer.

      Other figures like Baphomet, Mammon, Beelzebub, etc were pagan gods that Christianity coopted into being devils controlled by Satan to cause people to stray from God.

    • Anisette [any/all]@quokk.au
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      as I understand it Satan is officially a title and means something like “the adversary”, and Lucifer got this title after being cast out of heaven

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        Lucifer was just farrying light (ferre lucis - the bringer of light), but that just means morning star/Venus.

        But like all such texts and oral traditions the dude had several previous roles via random translations, misrememberings, story evolution, several distinct religions, mashups of all those, etc.

        I mean, look at this

        wiki/Lucifer