• Omega@discuss.online
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    18 hours ago

    Why do you care about illegal immigrants? My nation had a higher influx of refugees and their ratio to local citizens was also higher than USA, so, why do you care about illegal immigrants?

    • FreedomAdvocate
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      15 hours ago

      Why does your nation having more refugees etc matter?

      Illegal immigration is wrong. If you want to live in another country, follow the rules and do it the right way.

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        3 hours ago

        I get that it’s legally wrong, but do you think it’s ethically wrong?

        What if someone thinks the laws and systems in place aren’t morally perfect?

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        3 hours ago

        “freedom advocate” arguing for strict border regulation and the ultimate authority of nation states lol.

        If you had plural brain cells you’d probably read into what actual freedom oriented philosophies have to say on the matter.

        Freedom to lick that boot

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        13 hours ago

        What if “the right way” is purposely blocked or made impossible?

        A lot of American history has clear demonstration of using the letter of the law to impede people trying to live their life.

        Georgia city clerk: “Oh sorry, we need you to bring your land ownership forms. Don’t own land? Well, this office is closed for lunch, have a good day”.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      17 hours ago

      It’s mostly racism in the case of the US.

      The US wants to preserve its exceptionalism, and thus doesn’t want to get “flooded with a wave of normal people from other countries”.

      They worry it would dilute their exceptionalism.


      Apart from that, other countries can have other reasons to be against immigration. I live in Europe, and for me it’s mostly economic concerns: I’m thinking that immigrants make the economic situation of the people living in this country worse, because they take jobs and occupy resources such as housing. It’s not racism, just economic concern.

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        15 hours ago

        It’s so funny that Mr. “Enlightened” European’s take on immigration being bad is verbatim right-wing American politician talking points. You’re so much better than those racist Americans because you definitely only don’t want brown people because of FACTS and LOGIC.

            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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              17 hours ago

              Look, i’m allowed to have an opinion, and what i said did not break any laws or directly attack any individual or group of people.

              You, on the other hand, are being emotional, and on top of that, rude. I don’t accept that. If you have something to say, you have to learn to say it properly. Calling others “not worth the air they breathe” is a serious insult and you should reconsider the way you argue with people.

              Apart from that, i think we need to take a stance where we’re actually discussing points, including their effects and consequences, instead of falling back to a mud-throwing insult-battle. I’m trying to bring up fair and valid points, you’re insulting. I think i should be taking a stance here.