• Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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    9 hours ago

    use a VPN

    No VPN apps for TVs. You know, the most likely thing older people would want to use to access your server to watch movies with.

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    Not that they’re really an issue unless you are exposing your server to untrusted clients.

    And the fact that many endpoints are completely unauthed…

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      9 hours ago

      My router (more accurately its software) has VPN support, using it for the whole network. You might be able to find one

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        9 hours ago

        Sure… but now you’re supporting their whole network because you need the vpn in place. It quickly becomes a whole thing of support just to let your cousin’s kid watch some old shows you have in your library.

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          4 hours ago

          Or if the my Internet goes down, now my relative’s Internet 7 states over stops working.

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            Well I was taking it gracefully as a split-vpn. But yeah it’s a fair question to have if it’s misconfigured, or relying on something in your network (Eg, maybe you also setup a pihole and they lost DNS resolution due to vpn going down.) God knows with these random half-features that many consumer “routers” that are out there.

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      Depending on their router and how much IT labor you care to do for these people you can actually configure a site to site VPN tunnel. All traffic for a particular address range will get routed through the VPN automatically.

      It used to be a high end feature but it’s made it’s way into general routers since it doesn’t really require many resources and it lets you label it as having more home office features.

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        I do NOT want to support my MIL’s network which is 3000 miles away. It simply will not happen or work for either of us. Until Jellyfin has a decent way to support remote users, I simply cannot change her over.

        If Plex folded or somehow forced my hand, I would just kick off all of my family and use Jellyfin on my local network. They’d hate losing access, and I’d hate them paying $$$ for a thousand streaming services, but at this point, that’s what would happen.

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          Honestly, you’re supporting a chunk of her network by being a media provider in the first place. “It won’t play” doesn’t usually come with an assurance that it’s not a device or network issue.

          Neither plex nor jellyfin seem remotely worth the effort to provide to others in my opinion, I just felt like sharing that there are ways to afford network protection to locked down devices.

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            It’s much easier for me to manage if it’s a file issue though. It’s much more difficult to manage an actual network 3000 miles away, especially if something actually goes wrong. Basically, “it won’t play” can be checked locally. If it doesn’t play locally, I’m happy to fix it. But I’m not about to troubleshoot her network issues for her.

            Saying I’m “supporting a chunk of her network” is like saying Netflix supports a chunk of their users’ networks. It’s just not true.

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              Okay. You’re still doing tech support either way. I have no way of knowing how much free tech support you’re willing to give, hence my caveat of how much you’re willing to support them.

              Netflix would disagree. People feel like they’re supposed to be getting access to a service, and if they’re not getting it they’ll complain to the nearest party to what isn’t working. In this case that’s you or Netflix being asked questions about why the router isn’t working.
              That it’s wrong or irrational has nothing to do with who’s getting asked the question, and who’s the first line of troubleshooting when the service doesn’t work.

              If people didn’t ask the wrong people questions, Netflix wouldn’t need support articles on how to reset your router.

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        9 hours ago

        Yup already addressed this in another thread.

        You have to take on supporting them now… supporting family is just like loaning money to family… or renting to family… or anything else with family. Stressful.

        But even silly problems like what happens when their wireguarded phone connect to the wireguarded home wifi vpn… I can’t imagine that it wouldn’t cause problems that you’re going to get blamed for.

        But even then this is still jellyfins problem. It’s clear the platform is MEANT to be public, otherwise there would be some integration with these other features that just don’t exist.

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          I’ve got no real care for jellyfin one way or another, just sharing that there’s ways to make the network obey.

          I think giving people access to my media server is asking for too much trouble personally. Now you’re dealing with forgotten passwords, people using your bandwidth at weird hours, and you basically become the media fairy, responsible for finding whatever it is people want, and then dealing with their issues when their device can’t codec at it for whatever janky reason.

          I’m good at setting boundaries with family so it’s not stressful, just more annoying than I want to deal with.