• ZebulonP@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    If two-thirds of a populace is opposed to something, and their government approves it anyway. Then their government is illegitimate.

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      49 minutes ago

      The issue here is what to do when you have multiple levels of government. One government entity may be against a policy, but a larger government entity which includes the smaller entity may be for a policy.

      This case is regarding police funding, but this could apply to school or welfare programs as well.

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      4 hours ago

      Yes, that’s capitalist “democracy” for you. Almost everyone agrees on increased funding and auditing to public healthcare, education, pensions and welfare in general, and yet we see all western capitalist countries heading in the opposite direction for the last 20 years.

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      4 hours ago

      Yeah, and I know this sounds trivial by comparison, but we had something similar here recently and it was a proposed ban on fox hunting that the government scooched away that the populous were wildly in favour of.

      I have to say that if 25% of my city’s money was being spent on police I’d be making them earn their fucking money and you may infer from that what you will.

      Imagine the opportunity cost. And guess who lost the most in that trade? The most vulnerable.

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      6 hours ago

      Seems pretty legit to me. Must be if people aren’t up in arms about

      Seth Meyers gesturing at everything

      • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 hours ago

        “People weren’t willing to throw their lives away in the people grinder machine, that means they fully support the people grinder machine”

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          3 hours ago

          Unironically yes. People should learn what it means to permit their government to ignore their wishes.

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            People should, but I’m kind of tired of all the keyboard warriors thinking that lack of blood on the streets equals lack of action and explicit approval, especially when they have no skin in the fight themselves.

            It’s some of the most absurd shit. “I don’t see you actively hunting down child abusers, so you must be a pedophile” ass opinions.

            It’s easy to call for others to die for a cause, and that’s a large part of what led to the situation we’re in now. People sitting back and sentencing others to pay for their desires.

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              51 minutes ago

              And I am sick of americans pretending nothing can be done and that their stupid nation is somehow different then the rest of the world. Do you know how fucking frustrating it is watching a nation collapse and try to take the world down with it all while the same people that expected people in the middle east to rise up and fight their oppressor sit on their fat asses and get offended when anyone asks literally anything from them? We all world wide have skin in this game, and you are all sitting around stating that the fucking self proclaimed world police does not concern us?!

              Like wholly flying fuck sticks, but if your are being told often enough that a real nation would be full on in revolt to tire you out… YOU MIGHT BE PART OF THE ISSUE.

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        not at that size, no. yes they all have addresses and put their pants on one leg at a time, but they are capitalists before anything else, including the people who voted for them.

        which means they are no longer human - they are pieces of shit.

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          3 hours ago

          Way to misinterpret me.

          We the people ARE the government. We only elect representatives. But all this (look around), it’s ours.

          • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 hour ago

            You haven’t been involved with politics at a local level, have you? Just the bullshit going on with flock surveillance cameras being pushed through is a good microcosm of how politicians don’t face consequences for failing to follow their constituents will.