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  • I won’t deny it’s godawful to have shit split across AD, Group Policy, Regedit, and Azure/Entra/Intune.

    But they very much still have controls for all this shit, almost always available before the feature rolls out. I’ve literally never seen this shit make it through to our end user devices in an un-intended fashion.

    Hell, just hold non-security updates for a period of time for review before pushing it to your entire environment if this (not actually happening) issue is a concern. That’s like basic table stakes for Windows environment administration: update cadence management and pilot machines.

    Please don’t claim to speak from a place of authority on this and then spread falsehoods. There’s plenty of shit to hate without making things up.

    Like the third party app approvals in Azure and Teams defaulting to allow any non-admin user to be able to approve any azure app access to all of their data with no oversight. You can (and should) lock that the fuck down. It’s a batshit default, not a lack of controls.










  • Welcome to ”How online discussion spaces work 101". Generally you have to coalesce power into the hands of a trusted few, lest all the thousands of knitters in the world decide that your gaming forum is their personal space for knitting. The general “ideal state” is benevolent dictatorship. If you’re lucky, you can get additional guardrails on top, but it’s ultimately a dictatorship under the hood (more on this later).

    If you want a decent example of what social media with minimal rules looks like (what a lot of people seem to confuse as “democracy” or “free speech”), check out 4chan. It’s been a constant downward spiral for each fucking board on that site since their inception, which made even worse because they nearly unanomously didn’t even start off as good. Hope you enjoy people talking about premeditated SA, that only gets taken down sometimes if they mention it’s aimed at the underage!

    Anyway, I can tell that you probably weren’t around for the “raids” that used to happen on the earlier internet. When your anime mmo forum gets targeted by 4chan’s /b/ users spamming whatever shock images they can get their hands on (I distinctly remember one with a whole fish half shoved up a hairy man asshole), you don’t want democracy. You don’t want those 200 people spamming ass-fish to turn the place into ass-fish central. You don’t want to take the time to take a vote, establish criteria, establish who is and isn’t allowed to vote in an attempt to keep new accounts made by spammers out, to make sure enough people all agree to the course of action, etc. The ass-fishers may legitimately outnumber the normal users. Would telling the normal users to suck it up and go elsewhere because they’re outnumbered by people acting in bad faith be fair? No. You want some people who are trusted by the community to come in and get rid of the ass-fish and ass-fishers. The members of the community could easily move on in the time it would take to do things in a different fashion.

    There’s also arguments to be made for keeping spaces very strictly on topic to attempt to maintain a certain quality of conversation, like how reddit has many subs that don’t allow memes and push them to another sub, so deeper discussion isn’t drowned out by the more popular “junk food” content. It’s a central rule to how the internet works that the more popular a topic becomes, the more the discussions trend towards the more easily digestible stuff like memes. Sometimes it’s important to keep a place where people do stuff like share information on circuitboard level console repair from being overrun by people wanting to engage in the console wars, arguing about whether Sony or MS is better.

    There are plenty of different online spaces that have tried many different ways to solve these problems “democratically” using tech. I believe slashdot restricted new users from downvoting until they had reached a certain threshold of that site’s karma equivalent. I believe Stack Overflow allowed users to automatically work their way up into minor moderation powers based off their contributions to the site community. But there are always loopholes and issues with any of those systems, and an infinite amount of details to argue over about implementation. There is endless drama surrounding Wikipedia and its various editors and mods because of this sort of thing. You can’t design a failproof system to enforce democracy that handles all the different needs of even the relatively limited scope of different articles and topics on a digital encyclopedia. There will always be gaps that simply must come down to the decision of some trusted person or persons.

    So we come to lemmy/the fediverse. Standard setup of mods and admins being able to rule their slice of things with an iron fist. But it is highly resistant. If you don’t like how some mods handle their comm, you can switch comms or make your own. If you don’t like how some admins handle their instance, you can switch instances or make your own.

    If you join an instance like lemmy.dbzer0.com or anarchist.nexus, you can find that they have codified rules to help hold their admins and mods accountable (part of which is this very comm). Users can start votes to oust pretty much anyone in a position of power.

    But at the end of the day, some individual is responsible for the server bills. Best to make peace with it.


    Personally, for your vague non-specific example, my response would be: it depends.




  • Also his claim that email chains end up creating an extra copy of an attachment every time? That’s not how most email clients handle attachments. They usually only carry forward in forwards.

    And even if his idea is true for his setup somehow, data deduplication at the storage level isn’t particularly difficult to set up, and I would argue is table stakes for any business doing self hosting.

    Similar when it comes to data retention policies, quotas, auto deletion of spam after a shorter time window. It’s not fun and for some setups may not be easy, but it’s part of the bare minimum for email. So yeah, you absolutely do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you.

    Edit: and if you pay someone to do it for you, you have to abide by whatever dumb hoops they make you jump through, or find someone else to pay.