So many leftists will go “Well yeah obviously Russia isn’t as evil as the U.S. or Israel, but the invasion of Ukraine was still wrong!” But if you ask them follow-up questions about how the war started, the genocide of Russians in the Donbas before Russia’s invasion, and whether Hamas’s allies (Iran, Hezbollah, Yemen) were justified in attacking Israel in defense of Gaza, they run out of answers very quickly.
The parallels between these two conflicts are very clear. Israel and Ukraine are fascist, racial supremacist states funded by the west that love doing genocide. Gaza and the Donbas are their victims. Russia and Iran are the regional powers that reluctantly got involved, not necessarily to stop the genocide but because they were pushed into a corner, but are nevertheless on the right side of the fight.
History didn’t start on October 7 2023, and it didn’t start on February 24 2022 either. Russia didn’t start the war, Russia joined the ongoing war in Ukraine on the side of Ukraine’s victims. Most of their reasoning for doing so was selfish, sure, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t the correct thing to do.
The amount of times my lack of support for Ukraine and my support for Palestine have been called hypocritical is astounding. So many people seem to genuinely believe that Russia just wants to take over and rule Ukraine for no reason aside from evil.
Russophobia never really went away because it is a hell of a drug
Me? I grew up during that weird period between 1988 and 2000 when the messaging was “The Russians are our friends now!” so it never stuck with me that Russians are somehow innately evil
Plus I saw that movie where Schwarzenegger played the Soviet cop in Chicago like fifteen times
It’s funny because for just about everything else, the average liberal will say “It's just so nuanced, it's hard to say you shouldn't support X”
But when you say, the causes of the current Ukraine-Russia war take more than five seconds to explain, the inner bloodlust breaks free and they start breaking down
it’s very dumb because it’s obviously a shit situation and like any normal human person i wish it wasn’t happening but at the same time, ukraine’s banderite government absolutely ensured that it would happen by outright encouraging legions of paramilitary nazis to do pogroms in addition to their own direct efforts to do ethnic cleansing through policy. but to look at russia as a country operating under its own rational self interests while also standing up for a targeted group of people who would otherwise have no international support would mean considering russia as one of many countries in the world and not a cartoon supervillain.
My rule of thumb is that if it’s an organized group clearly and explicitly opposed to America then it is a force of good, stability, and peace in the world. I imagine there are exceptions but as a rule of thumb I’m likely to be right.
Do I know anything about Russia? Just that the average USSR citizen had as many calories as the US and I watched the movie about doping in the Olympics. Was I saying that I hope for a quick and lasting peace for the people of the Donbas region the nanosecond I heard they were being bullied? You bet your sweet ass I did.
Russia today doesn’t strike me as… le good! and I’m open to learning more.
So many leftists will go “Well yeah obviously Russia isn’t as evil as the U.S. or Israel, but the invasion of Ukraine was still wrong!” But if you ask them follow-up questions about how the war started, the genocide of Russians in the Donbas before Russia’s invasion, and whether Hamas’s allies (Iran, Hezbollah, Yemen) were justified in attacking Israel in defense of Gaza, they run out of answers very quickly.
The parallels between these two conflicts are very clear. Israel and Ukraine are fascist, racial supremacist states funded by the west that love doing genocide. Gaza and the Donbas are their victims. Russia and Iran are the regional powers that reluctantly got involved, not necessarily to stop the genocide but because they were pushed into a corner, but are nevertheless on the right side of the fight.
History didn’t start on October 7 2023, and it didn’t start on February 24 2022 either. Russia didn’t start the war, Russia joined the ongoing war in Ukraine on the side of Ukraine’s victims. Most of their reasoning for doing so was selfish, sure, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t the correct thing to do.
The amount of times my lack of support for Ukraine and my support for Palestine have been called hypocritical is astounding. So many people seem to genuinely believe that Russia just wants to take over and rule Ukraine for no reason aside from evil.
My parents liked to say Putin wants to rebuild the USSR, which is really silly compared to reality.
I fucking wish
Russophobia never really went away because it is a hell of a drug
Me? I grew up during that weird period between 1988 and 2000 when the messaging was “The Russians are our friends now!” so it never stuck with me that Russians are somehow innately evil
Plus I saw that movie where Schwarzenegger played the Soviet cop in Chicago like fifteen times
It’s funny because for just about everything else, the average liberal will say “
It's just so nuanced, it's hard to say you shouldn't support X”But when you say, the causes of the current Ukraine-Russia war take more than five seconds to explain, the inner bloodlust breaks free and they start breaking down
it’s very dumb because it’s obviously a shit situation and like any normal human person i wish it wasn’t happening but at the same time, ukraine’s banderite government absolutely ensured that it would happen by outright encouraging legions of paramilitary nazis to do pogroms in addition to their own direct efforts to do ethnic cleansing through policy. but to look at russia as a country operating under its own rational self interests while also standing up for a targeted group of people who would otherwise have no international support would mean considering russia as one of many countries in the world and not a cartoon supervillain.
My rule of thumb is that if it’s an organized group clearly and explicitly opposed to America then it is a force of good, stability, and peace in the world. I imagine there are exceptions but as a rule of thumb I’m likely to be right.
Do I know anything about Russia? Just that the average USSR citizen had as many calories as the US and I watched the movie about doping in the Olympics. Was I saying that I hope for a quick and lasting peace for the people of the Donbas region the nanosecond I heard they were being bullied? You bet your sweet ass I did.
Russia today doesn’t strike me as… le good! and I’m open to learning more.
The only ones I can think of all trace their origins back to US intelligence anyway, ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc.