Accelerations didnt want destruction, they want the system to meaningfully evolve in the most expedient, most peaceful, most Just way possible. We stand in opposition to the “things will naturally just fix themselves if you make sure to vote dem in the primaries” crowd.
What you want is immaterial to effective strategy. Voting/not-voting for an ideal is not something you do in the US. If you want the ideal, you work off a lesser liberal enemy by electing them and then doing on the ground work to undermine or challenge them with proper alternatives.
Instead we have fascists in power and I have never been more anti-motivated. Not demotivated, anti-motivated. Spite fuels me now. I’m a miserable wraith of what could have been, and I blame you and people like you.
You’ve dragged me into the mud and now the only way out that I could emotionally tolerate is to kick it into your face as I get out of the puddle.
HalfSalesman, have you considered that being so disappointed with reality that you have adopted a deathcult mentality is in fact evidence that you do not have a strong enough relationship with reality as it is? As in, an idealist mentality that does not consider human desire or the material world? I know I said that I wouldn’t respond further, it’s just tough to see someone so obviously unwilling to just give up the ideology of their enemies. So, I’m not making this comment to warrant a response, but to ensure that you do realize those questions are able to be asked.
Than those people definitely don’t deserve my help.
The thing is that your own life is affected by their decision.
Do you know what “First Past The Post” means?
People just have to vote majoritarily to third parties. By accepting the two party system and the lesser of two evil bullshit you are switching between slow decline and fast decline each 1 or 2 elections. Why would any politcian listen to you if they know that yo u will keep voting for them?
My better pre-2024 self didn’t view political salvation through lesser evil electoralism on its own. Its one component of a multipart strategy. An important part but not the only one.
Voting third party is a waste because its simply a bet on a completely unrealistic outcome. Its like having voter’s collectively buying a lottery ticket, with the added risk of total financial ruin.
Further, the green party only pops up during general presidential elections. They then disappear off the map every other year. They aren’t a serious political project at best and a engineered spoiler at worst.
But whatever, we’re litigating something that legitimately no longer matters.
There is no multipart strategy. Just American switching between the two parties every 1 or 2 elections
Voting third party is a waste because its simply a bet on a completely unrealistic outcome
Everything is unrealistic if people do not make effort
Further, the green party only pops up during general presidential elections. They then disappear off the map every other year. They aren’t a serious political project at best and a engineered spoiler at worst.
Bullshit. Greens no longer serve your political agenda so you stop caring about them and act like they are doing nothing when they are doing grassroot actions all over the year. While Harris only reappeared to sell her fucking stupid book.
Wait, I wanted to back up to something you said earlier in this conversation because something dawned on me:
The thing is that your own life is affected by their decision.
What do you mean by this? Was this a refutation of what I said there? Because I know their decision affected my life. Do you think this means I should help them? If so, why?
What you want is immaterial to effective strategy. Voting/not-voting for an ideal is not something you do in the US. If you want the ideal, you work off a lesser liberal enemy by electing them and then doing on the ground work to undermine or challenge them with proper alternatives.
Instead we have fascists in power and I have never been more anti-motivated. Not demotivated, anti-motivated. Spite fuels me now. I’m a miserable wraith of what could have been, and I blame you and people like you.
You’ve dragged me into the mud and now the only way out that I could emotionally tolerate is to kick it into your face as I get out of the puddle.
HalfSalesman, have you considered that being so disappointed with reality that you have adopted a deathcult mentality is in fact evidence that you do not have a strong enough relationship with reality as it is? As in, an idealist mentality that does not consider human desire or the material world? I know I said that I wouldn’t respond further, it’s just tough to see someone so obviously unwilling to just give up the ideology of their enemies. So, I’m not making this comment to warrant a response, but to ensure that you do realize those questions are able to be asked.
If my relationship with material reality is weak, your questions wont save me. For all I know you’re not real shrugs.
I imagine that’s not what you meant though. Maybe you are talking about axioms? Analysis structures?
People decided that Trump was the lesser of the two evil . It wouldn’t happen without the lesser of the two evil bullshit rhetoric
Than those people definitely don’t deserve my help.
Do you know what “First Past The Post” means?
The thing is that your own life is affected by their decision.
People just have to vote majoritarily to third parties. By accepting the two party system and the lesser of two evil bullshit you are switching between slow decline and fast decline each 1 or 2 elections. Why would any politcian listen to you if they know that yo u will keep voting for them?
My better pre-2024 self didn’t view political salvation through lesser evil electoralism on its own. Its one component of a multipart strategy. An important part but not the only one.
Voting third party is a waste because its simply a bet on a completely unrealistic outcome. Its like having voter’s collectively buying a lottery ticket, with the added risk of total financial ruin.
Further, the green party only pops up during general presidential elections. They then disappear off the map every other year. They aren’t a serious political project at best and a engineered spoiler at worst.
But whatever, we’re litigating something that legitimately no longer matters.
There is no multipart strategy. Just American switching between the two parties every 1 or 2 elections
Everything is unrealistic if people do not make effort
Bullshit. Greens no longer serve your political agenda so you stop caring about them and act like they are doing nothing when they are doing grassroot actions all over the year. While Harris only reappeared to sell her fucking stupid book.
Wait, I wanted to back up to something you said earlier in this conversation because something dawned on me:
What do you mean by this? Was this a refutation of what I said there? Because I know their decision affected my life. Do you think this means I should help them? If so, why?