"Now I understand how somebody like Adolf Hitler was able to brainwash millions of people," Thomas from Hawaii said in a shocking CSPAN call denouncing Trump.
They were lied to - and then chose to ignore their fellow citizens telling them that for years. They chose to ignore those signs for years. We didn’t give Germany a pass for Hitler because enough folks after the war said they finally saw the light; instead, we proceeded with a plan of denazification.
There are a lot of factors at play, not the least of which being critical thinking and education. I don’t think it’s accurate to say there is now broad scale agreement on these issues because a bunch of Trumpers are just now, 2 terms in, realizing that they were duped.
and then chose to ignore their fellow citizens telling them that for years.
Factually incorrect. What you told them was to vote for Democrats who they’d just watched, for four years, ignoring their increasing impoverishment and running immigration policy that was not feasible long-term. And you were always rude, condescending assholes about it.
The vast majority of these people voted for two things: Affordability and immigration enforcement. That’s it. They, as evidenced by their own political activity and Donald’s poll numbers, do not support a Gestapo-style crackdown of Democratic cities nor economic policy that super-charges the inflation and price gouging they endured under Joe Biden. Further, many of these former Trump voters were on the picket lines in Minneapolis too.
And it’s a good thing that they’re speaking out against Donald now. So resist the urge to be a finger-wagging douche about it.
resist the urge to be a finger-wagging douche about it.
No need for personal attacks, but it does mean I generally won’t be responding to your “points”.
Save for one observation: it’s strange to be upset at and fixate on some generalized boogeymen being “condescending” given the scope of what has happened due to MAGA gaining power. One is some people potentially being rude, while the other is a shared suffering (in some cases losses of careers, losses of savings, even some deaths) because of the poor decisionmaking of a voting bloc.
Point that anger in the right direction. Yes, I’m glad some of those voters are turning around. Still waiting on a tangible result.
They weren’t lied to, they were told unequivocally that this would happen, Trump himself said he would do all this. This is what they genuinely wanted, they just didn’t want the consequences of economic devastation even though everybody kept telling them this is exactly what would happen. Nobody gets to claim they were lied to and if they genuinely believed it all they’re too ignorant to participate in society. Fuck every last one of em, and fuck all the non voters too, this is every bit as much their fault as well. Now watch all the tankys and liberals come in telling me how everything is actually the democrats fault.
One day everyone will have been against this
Yeah… The mid 2020s??? Oh, that was all three guys no one voted for.
The big difference between Hitler and Trump is the people did not elect Hitler, not even once.
what?
Hitler was never elected into power. He was appointed.
yeah cause he blamed the commies and never held free elections again, sound familiar?
They already are. And they were.
They were lied to.
That’s why Donald is polling lower than Jimmy Carter.
They were lied to - and then chose to ignore their fellow citizens telling them that for years. They chose to ignore those signs for years. We didn’t give Germany a pass for Hitler because enough folks after the war said they finally saw the light; instead, we proceeded with a plan of denazification.
There are a lot of factors at play, not the least of which being critical thinking and education. I don’t think it’s accurate to say there is now broad scale agreement on these issues because a bunch of Trumpers are just now, 2 terms in, realizing that they were duped.
Can’t let the face eating leopards go hungry.
Factually incorrect. What you told them was to vote for Democrats who they’d just watched, for four years, ignoring their increasing impoverishment and running immigration policy that was not feasible long-term. And you were always rude, condescending assholes about it.
The vast majority of these people voted for two things: Affordability and immigration enforcement. That’s it. They, as evidenced by their own political activity and Donald’s poll numbers, do not support a Gestapo-style crackdown of Democratic cities nor economic policy that super-charges the inflation and price gouging they endured under Joe Biden. Further, many of these former Trump voters were on the picket lines in Minneapolis too.
And it’s a good thing that they’re speaking out against Donald now. So resist the urge to be a finger-wagging douche about it.
No need for personal attacks, but it does mean I generally won’t be responding to your “points”.
Save for one observation: it’s strange to be upset at and fixate on some generalized boogeymen being “condescending” given the scope of what has happened due to MAGA gaining power. One is some people potentially being rude, while the other is a shared suffering (in some cases losses of careers, losses of savings, even some deaths) because of the poor decisionmaking of a voting bloc.
Point that anger in the right direction. Yes, I’m glad some of those voters are turning around. Still waiting on a tangible result.
They weren’t lied to, they were told unequivocally that this would happen, Trump himself said he would do all this. This is what they genuinely wanted, they just didn’t want the consequences of economic devastation even though everybody kept telling them this is exactly what would happen. Nobody gets to claim they were lied to and if they genuinely believed it all they’re too ignorant to participate in society. Fuck every last one of em, and fuck all the non voters too, this is every bit as much their fault as well. Now watch all the tankys and liberals come in telling me how everything is actually the democrats fault.