• nexguy@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    You seem to like when the government heavily censors domestic media, the internet, and academic discourse, and actively suppresses political dissent, protests, or criticism of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Movement within China is regulated. The justice system in China has a 99% conviction rate…for whichever side supports the side of the state. Mass surveillance with no legal recourse. You wouldn’t even know if you had it good or not. Unless you are fine not knowing I suppose.

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      7 hours ago

      The west also heavily censors domestic media, the internet, academic discourse, and actively suppresses political dissent and protests, etc. The critical difference is that the west does this to protect capitalists against the working classes, while China does this to suppress capitalists and protect the socialist system. The class that controls the state uses it to oppress the others.

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        6 hours ago

        Can you openly criticize the Chinese party in control? Can you protest without violent retribution?

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          6 hours ago

          People criticize, institutions are censored. Protests also do happen infrequently. China is a pretty stable country overall because the system actually works.

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            6 hours ago

            People can openly protest the party in control in a city center? They can openly access the world wide internet?

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              5 hours ago

              Yes, and yes. VPNs are accessible. Institutions trying to foment regime change are cracked down, simple protest is not generally.

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                5 hours ago

                So the internet is openly accrssible… as long as you circumvent government authority? That doesn’t sound like “openly”.

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                  4 hours ago

                  VPNs are easy to get and are tolerated. The firewall exists to protect Chinese companies from losing in competition to western monopolies, which is important because China desires above all else self-sufficiency and resistance to western disinformation campaigns.

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      7 hours ago

      You’re responding to my comment where I said.

      Show me all this accountability here in the United States.

      You didn’t show me where all this accountability is. Was that an oversight on your part or are you acknowledging there isn’t any?

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        6 hours ago

        Can you openly criticize the Chinese party in control? Can you protest without violent retribution?

        You can do these things in the usa. Accountability.

        China won’t let the full intent through. The US does. Accountability.

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          5 hours ago

          You can do these things in the usa. Accountability.

          You think a few no kings protests around the country means the pedophile Donald Trump has been held accountable for his crimes against humanity?

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              4 hours ago

              You chose to respond to my comment and I’m still waiting for you to show me where all this accountability is. 🤷‍♂️

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                4 hours ago

                Allowing open and free access to the internet. This provides accountability. China gets to mold the internet to their will. If they don’t want you to know it, you have to subvert them to find it online. Want to find out what’s going on by watching the news? You get a carefully curated version of the news and no way to fact check with independent sources outside of the country…without subversion.

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                  4 hours ago

                  This provides accountability.

                  Yet after 3 comments you have failed to provide a single example of accountability.

                  I’m not gonna keep playing this game bud. If your next comment doesn’t provide an actual example of accountability I’m just going to block you. 🤷‍♂️

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                    4 hours ago

                    I just looked at your comment history. Sorry, I didn’t realize what you were. Blocked