• vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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    1 hour ago

    One does, actually, by the definition of ‘left-wing’ politics, exclude the other.

    Horseshoe theory and other ‘enlightened centrist’ viewpoints were created solely, and I do mean solely, to disrupt class consciousness. Nearly all propaganda you believe that make the USSR or China seem bad was created by the US wholesale, with some being created by criminals given extremely cushy paychecks for life for utilizing their background to give legitimacy to stories made up by people that never left the US.

    ‘Intolerance,’ doesn’t enter into it. Period. There isn’t any documented accounts of that from any left wing government. Period.

    • flabberjabber@lemmy.world
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      13 minutes ago

      Not propaganda, historical fact. I see many ills in this world, of which the USSR was one, China is one, the USA another. All different, all unique in their own method of tyranny. In this viewpoint is nuance and subtlety. And in that subtlety is context.

      So I suppose in your mind all the academics Stalin had murdered all deserved it yes? I suppose murder in the name of the soviet state is acceptable as long they’re political enemies right? I suppose the Uyghurs are all happy and definitely haven’t been persecuted or reeducated hmm?

      I can say all of these things whilst also seeing and commenting on the numerous hands the USA has had in coups across the world. The many wars they’ve started, and the lives the MIC has sacrificed in the name of profit.

      Authoritarianism by its very nature is intolerance leading to trauma, abuse and pain. It is quite literally scapegoating and persecuting a group of people for political gain, which can often end in the harming and death of said group.

      Both sides of the authoritarian equation are built on othering groups of people for political purposes.

      It’s also the dimension of the political compass in which authoritarians would prefer we not talk about so I talk about it as much as is feasible.

      The alternative to authoritarian socialism is libertarian socialism which is where any person who values both theirs and their fellow humans dignity and mutual respect would want to live.

      But, that aside, left and right are pointless measures, secondary in their importance, if both are governed by people willing to remove personal freedoms and sovereignty in the name of however they like to measure progress.

      When you rule with an iron fist, when there is no due process, when there is no personal representation only state representation and the ability for change that can only come from a functioning and healthy democracy; people are squashed under the boot of those in power a la Orwell’s Animal Farm. Neither of these worlds are ones I want to live in; nor do I want for any of my loved ones.