west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
    410·
    12 hours ago

    Anyone who’s pro Western imperialism and disregards their culture’s involvement in the subjugation of the global South is right wing and of those there are many here. The only reason it’s such a craaaazy take is because most Americans/Westerners couldn’t give two shits about the death their elected governments push as long as gas at the pump is cheap and Netflix pumps specials.

    • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
      122·
      11 hours ago

      Why is it only western imperialism that is bad, though? I hate to indulge in whataboutism, but it’s frankly naive and highly revisionist to believe that imperialism is all of the west and only in the west.

      • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
        34·
        11 hours ago

        My native country suffered from Western imperialism back in the 1500s and still is at the very least “managed” by America today… when we (basically the rest of the world) have to fight the same main villain, that IMO is the result of culture, for over 500y and more even if you’re idk West Asian for example, I don’t really see how you could expect the world to think differently. If we ever have to suffer Chinese or idk Nigerian world control, I’m sure we’ll switch our tone.

      • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
        11·
        8 hours ago

        I mean I’d like to believe I said something with a bit more sense, lol. IMO, all of it boils down to “waaaah I don’t like to hear West bad because I’m a Westerner and my identity is tied to this long-standing human cancer”. The smartest among them just wisely understand they can be good and guided even if their neighbours aren’t, that they don’t HAVE to go along with their countries’ crimes, and the other ones complain. 🤷

        • Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 hours ago

          I’m an American liberal, so, no not according to where you put the goal posts. Especially considering how much I love guns.

          • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
            21·
            11 hours ago

            What do you mean by liberal? Do you think those who don’t sow have the right to reap? Do you love the subjugation of the global South? Do you think America, despite things like slavery to the police forcen routinely murdering African Americans and now ICE kidnapping Latinos and Trump again, is anything but a white supremacist settler colony turned world hegemon and the culmination of Western imperialism?

            Or are you just a not too racist capitalist who doesn’t think about politics that deeply? Liberals are either knowingly disguising their immorality or just too unaware to care or think about it. And idc about your hyperfixation and I assume you like them the way people like trains and not because it makes you feel strong and condone murder, ofc.