A while back I started on this journey, and as most people did, I’ve had my ups and downs and went through the learning curve, I’ve now reached the point of so much knowledge that I truly know, I dont know shit. People of Lemmy I come to you today because idk what to do, I recently made a free account with proton, their subscription is fairly cheap so idm paying the monthly tier of 15GB so I can have control over ending it whenever I please instead of being locked in for a year. Now, I heard about Tuta but never dived much into it, i know Proton has had its controversies (Don’t be shy of reminding me of what they were), but what are my options here truly for a proper FOSS email provider? I can negate the free part for a reasonable price, but truly private AND secure is a must.

Self Hosting isn’t an option yet for personal reasons unless it’s completely free.

  • Voxel@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    22 hours ago

    TL;DR: Stick with Protonmail. There is, based on what you told us, no reason for you to switch to another provider.

    I wouldn’t recommend Tuta at the time of writing, due the lack of OpenPGP (no, their own EE2E does not act as a solid replacement) and JMAP/IMAP support.

    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      15 hours ago

      Hmmm ? Has Proton introduced imap support ? I was going to migrate to them a few years ago until I realised that was missing. Not keen on getting locked into their proprietary app.

      • elkien@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        14 hours ago

        No it hasn’t, but with the Proton Mail Bridge you can get close, as it creates a local IMAP server that you can use with any email client - it’s far from ideal though and it has plenty of glitches

        • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          14 hours ago

          Thanks for the response, yeah that is better than nothing, but if OP hasn’t migrated yet then better to choose a provider that isn’t locking them into an apple-esque walled garden. If they decide to stop supporting the bridge then you’re stuck.

          I like proton but they make a few too many weird decisions. I mean imap has been around for a long time, why not use the open standard.

    • snowydroopz@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      22 hours ago

      Take it easy on me with the big boy terms haha, you mind explaining them? Except E2E, I know what end to end encryption is, tho idk if EE2E is another thing or just a typo by you

      Another user said mailcow, thoughts?

      • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        21 hours ago

        I think they meant E2EE (End-to-end encryption)

        OpenPGP is an encryption standard

        JMAP/IMAP iirc lets you use other clients like Thunderbird (you won’t be able to use 3rd party clients with proton unless you pay for it so take that into account too)

        • snowydroopz@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          21 hours ago

          Isn’t PGP what they say to always encrypt any message you send with prior to sending it? Especially on Dread and DNM Bible, never understood how to actually use it though

          • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            21 hours ago

            yeah it is used for encryption, in this case mails between proton users can be encrypted using OpenPGP

            i recommend to research a bit yourself on these topics and your use case for privacy in this context. email is not private by design.