The innuendo is not lost, and while pop culture plays up the stereotypes of fashion savvy twink or mustachioed leather daddy as the two options, there’s plenty of very average guys who do what we think of as average “guy” things, like watch sports, grill burgers, drink beer, go fishing, work on cars, do nerd stuff, obsess over dinosaurs and medieval history. I have no data to back this, just personal experience, but I’ve noticed hockey and pro wrestling tend to have a lot of gay/bi males fans. I’m sure gay NASCAR fans exist, never met one.
Yeah, there are a lot, but it’s still like half as many fans. I was curious if that impacts culture and communication? For example as a straight guy, every other straight guy just assumes I watch sports and know what happened in the last game. Does that expecation exist in the gay community?
Hmmm… on this one I can only speak from personal experience but I would say that the bias of assuming men are into sports and using “catch last night’s game” as a conversation starter still holds. I think that just like with other cultures there’s context clues about the person that would also factor in to whether you thought the person might have caught the game. For example, I’m bi and my bff is gay, neither of us are effeminate and I think most strangers would assume hetero if you saw us hanging out in a bar. But we’re both punk rockers, and for some reason people rarely, if ever, bring up sports, usually a conversation starter is music or politics. I can see why people might assume an effeminate gay guy isn’t into sports however, since enjoying them does have a gender bias towards masculinity, even thought there’s plenty of CIS women who are deeply invested in it.
The innuendo is not lost, and while pop culture plays up the stereotypes of fashion savvy twink or mustachioed leather daddy as the two options, there’s plenty of very average guys who do what we think of as average “guy” things, like watch sports, grill burgers, drink beer, go fishing, work on cars, do nerd stuff, obsess over dinosaurs and medieval history. I have no data to back this, just personal experience, but I’ve noticed hockey and pro wrestling tend to have a lot of gay/bi males fans. I’m sure gay NASCAR fans exist, never met one.
Yeah, there are a lot, but it’s still like half as many fans. I was curious if that impacts culture and communication? For example as a straight guy, every other straight guy just assumes I watch sports and know what happened in the last game. Does that expecation exist in the gay community?
Hmmm… on this one I can only speak from personal experience but I would say that the bias of assuming men are into sports and using “catch last night’s game” as a conversation starter still holds. I think that just like with other cultures there’s context clues about the person that would also factor in to whether you thought the person might have caught the game. For example, I’m bi and my bff is gay, neither of us are effeminate and I think most strangers would assume hetero if you saw us hanging out in a bar. But we’re both punk rockers, and for some reason people rarely, if ever, bring up sports, usually a conversation starter is music or politics. I can see why people might assume an effeminate gay guy isn’t into sports however, since enjoying them does have a gender bias towards masculinity, even thought there’s plenty of CIS women who are deeply invested in it.