• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22
• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata
• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill
• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22
• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata
• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill
Because, for some reason on Lemmy, people think Proton is above criticism, and will defend the corporation’s false claims of fighting for their users when we have article after article proving the opposite
They’re not at all above criticism. The thing is all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation born from either technical ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation of the facts. None of which stand up to a moments scrutiny, much less “prove” anything.
On the more innocent side of the scale, you’ll have people chastising Proton over negatives that are entirely out of their control, and exist because they have to when operating as a public email provider. Then those same people will point people to alternatives like Fastmail or Tutanota that have all the same problems, but are less transparent about it.
Like if you want to make an argument against public email providers as a whole you can surely do so, but so far there’s really no evidence that Proton is anything but as good as you are reasonably going to get if you do decide to use one.
Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway
No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.
I didn’t make any misinformation. Nor is there a strawman. If you think there is “article after article” of proof then feel free to provide a couple.
Like what exactly?
You claimed there was misinformation. Show us where you think it is. Don’t be a hypocrite.
You claimed there is article after article of proof. Go ahead and share it with us. You can’t just uno-reverse the burden of proof for your claim to me lol.
There is plenty of misinformation in this thread alone. Like this comment here
Which consists of a completely fabricated story about Proton with no evidence that it happened, and some anecdote the OP heard from somebody else with no verification whatsoever.
You decided to claim multiple articles were misinformation. Provide them. I’ve posted articles elsewhere here already.
Comments are not articles. Show your work or simply admit you are a misinfo agent by your standards.
You claimed multiple articles are proof of Protons wrongdoing and seem to be unable to provide a single one. If you can’t back up your accusations then that makes you the misinformation agent I’m afraid.
It’s not my responsibility to go find these ambiguous and unidentified articles you’re referencing for you. If I tried you’d just say “Oh that’s not one of the ones I meant”. If they are as abundant as you claim, you’d have no trouble finding a couple. So we can scrutinize them properly.
If you haven’t seen multiple articles, you can’t claim they spreading misinformation. Either post the articles or walk back your lie.
I’d like to see those “articles over articles” that do not reference the one case that is cited over and over please.
You already educated everybody here that Proton is not to be trusted when it comes to logging. What do I get out of talking to you further, my anarchist friend? If you see a couple more articles, will you make a post condemning Proton’s false advertisement?
I’m more of a socialist than an anarchist, although i sympathize with anarchists - socialism and anarchism can have quite some overlap.
Any you really should work on your reading skills, because what i wrote and what you want to understand are two very different things. Since they don’t log IPs when not court ordered, no court can retroactively extract that data, and to be honest, if you know that you might attract government attention, using Tor or a VPN (yes, even ProtonVPN would have sufficed in this case) is basic OpSec - both would have prevented actionable intel being logged.
You sound like you would be absolutely outraged if you found out Proton marketed itself towards activists. Have you looked at the promises on their homepage recently?
If you are an activist and don’t use basic OpSec, you have only yourself to blame in this age.
Shifting the blame of corporate lies onto the activist they lie to.
You socialist anarchists area a funny bunch.
You know who really lied? The French authorities. Had they truthfully informed the swiss court about the reality of the situation, they would have gotten a tactful variant of “get lost” as a response from the swiss.
I find it funny how you socialists look at a company homepage, read
and then decide to defend that company’s lie.