A growing number of the world’s leading genocide scholars believe that Israel’s actions in Gaza constitute genocide, according to an investigation by Dutch newspaper NRC.
The paper interviewed seven renowned genocide researchers* from six countries - including Israel - all of whom described the Israeli campaign in Gaza as genocidal. Many said their peers in the field share this assessment.
“Contrary to public opinion, leading genocide researchers are surprisingly unanimous: the Netanyahu government, they say, is in that process - according to the majority, even in its final stages,” the investigation concluded. “That is why most researchers no longer speak only of ‘genocidal violence’, but of ‘genocide’.”
Article 2 of the Genocide Convention has 5 definitions of genocide, you only have to meet ONE for it to be considered a genocide.
Israel: Hold my beer!
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/genocide-conv-1948/article-2
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
✅ (a) Killing members of the group;
✅ (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
✅ © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
✅ (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
✅ (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Ah the Uyghur genocide would be (b) then?
b, c, d, and e.
any articles on d and e?
(d) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713
(e) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56454609
There are far more, but those two are already enough to prove the point.
I always take a skeptical stance whenever it is Adrian Zenz who wrote the study (for d), and I’m looking at the study he made right now
Point e, though, seems to be truthful and shows what happens to the kids of parents sent to the reeducation camps
Google “Uighur forced sterilization” and “Uighur children separation”.
That’s interesting. When I was growing up I was told it had to meet all 5, and the reason for Canada’s colonialism not being considered genocide is that it didn’t meet all 5.
Of course we all know what Canada did to indigenous folks was actually a genocide but the government would still tell you otherwise. Either way they meet at least 4 of these. Whether you want to say it was deliberate or not I guess is up for debate but…
Well, this definition didn’t come about until 1948, I’m rusty on my Canadian history, but I’d assume the colonialism would have been before '48.
If you want to be sad, read up on the Residential Schools.
1948 was 50 years before the last of those hellholes closed.
And yes, Canada has semi-officially recognized it as a cultural genocide. With actual genocide recognition passed by the House of Commons in 2022.
Oh I had no idea about the official genocide recognition that’s actually very good, thank you.
Interesring thing to note: doing any and all of the above to people along politically ideological lines is not considered genocide. Millions of civilians have been exterminated because their politics were not national, ethnic, racial, or religious.
Hey, that’s Bingo!
According to the experts in the article, it’s determining the intent through observation of action that causes identification to be a spectrum, rather than pass/fail.
I mean, it should be immediately apparent to anyone who has been paying attention.
This doctor absolutely fucking nails it:
“The doctor went on to claim that Israeli snipers are deliberately shooting children in Gaza, citing his observation of two children who were shot twice. “No child gets shot twice by mistake,” he said.”
Here’s the base problem… Israelis don’t see Palestinians as innocent. They’ve said this repeatedly:
For people who see others as just part of a Race or Ethnicity, their victims are not persons, just pieces of a race to take down.
The aggressor’s mental dehumanization of their victims is what allows them to just exterminate them as if they were animals and one way to dehumanize them is to look at them as just pieces of a “bad” Race which needs to be removed/eliminated.
Genociders target “a Race” and want to destroy “a Race” - that’s how the aggressors see the whole affair: as a fight of Races.
The victims, on the other hand, are individual human beings who suffer as only thinking and feeling human beings can suffer, not as pieces of “a Race”, and their suffering would be exactly the same when done the same things no mater what thier Race.
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Depends, do you have a long track record of bad faith arguing, trolling, and internet slap fights?
Checking your Magic 8 Ball:
“Outlook not so good.”
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14406577
Haha, and his username is freedom advocate! Of course they’re banned tons of times for spewing propaganda and bad faith arguments!
The account in question is three weeks old and already has 728 comments.
Totally not a bot.
Ahh good old freedumb advocate. I’m happy I blocked them :)
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You really need to lay off the internet, dude. Go touch some grass, connect with people, make friends. You have no power here.
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Holy shit is someone defending the idea of white genocide on Lemmy, this guy must be the furthest right wing person registered on any federated Lemmy Instance so far
Gtfo with your white Genocide conspiracy theory. We’re talking about an actual ongoing genocide. Where an entire civilian population is being bomed non fucking stop, where no food has entered for months, where every hospital has been bombed, where the entire population, one mostly children and many crippled by the IDF, has been forced to move over and over again under those conditions.
The phenomenon, and the extent to which it is politicised, has been the focus of a number of investigations. The 2003 Report Of The Special Committee Of Inquiry Into Farm Attacks by the SAPS found that most incidents were driven by a desire for material gain and that “very few cases have political overtones.”[24]: 445
There is insufficient data to reliably estimate a murder rate for South African farmers.[13] South African government data indicated between 58 and 74 murders on farms annually in the period 2015–2017; out of an annual murder count of 20,000 total murders in South Africa;[25][26] these figures are broadly consistent with figures collected by the Transvaal Agricultural Union (TAU), a farmers’ union.[27][28] Due to the problems associated with counting the number of South African farmers and farm murders, it is unclear whether farmers are at greater risk of being murdered than other South Africans.[13]
Data released by the South African government in 2018 showed that the number of farm attacks had increased between 2012 and 2018, but that the number of murders on farms had decreased year by year during the period.[28] During the same year farming organisation AgriSA reported on police statistics[29][30][31] which suggested that the murder rate on farms had declined to the lowest level in 20 years,[32] to a third of the level recorded in 1998.[33][34][35
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This guy doesn’t know who Mandela was, doesn’t know what imperialism is, or what apartheid is.
He’s an idiot who’s completely without historical context and says shit to be a contrarian. Because that makes him sound smart, but in reality he’s about just parroting propaganda bots from twitter.
correction: It does not make him sound smart
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No, that’s israel not south africa
Israel is singing “kill all the white man!” and making laws so they can literally steal white peoples property with no recourse and no way to fight it?
Banned in Ask Lemmy - Nothing to do with me.
Banned in WorldNews.lemmy.ml - Not my World News, but I wouldn’t take that personally, everyone gets banned from .ml eventually.
Banned 2x in Memes - How the hell do you get banned in Memes?
I did ban you from Politics and World for trolling and misinformation, which you were.
Banned in News but that was before I was made a mod in News.
So mods in 5 different communities see your content de-valuing their communities. I’m just one of them.
I did ban you from Politics and World for trolling and misinformation, which you were
And are, in this thread. Why bother keeping trying to interact with them here? Just ban again. And make it permanent this time.
Done!
Bye bye!
I think it’s an alt, can’t be sure, but they feel very similar to Donald j musk, and then Donald musk.
To be fair, all these conservatives use the same dumbass talking points that a minute of investigation can debunk
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Right now you’re sea lioning which is just another form of trolling.
They’re getting what they want by derailing the thread.
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what are you even doing here, read the room and go back to X
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What do you hope to gain from arguing with a bunch of people you already know will never agree with you?
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Israeli soldiers wore T-shirts with a pregnant woman in cross-hairs and the slogan “1 Shot 2 Kills,” adding to a growing furor in the country over allegations of misconduct by troops during the Gaza war.
“The smaller they are, the harder it is,” says another shirt showing a child in a rifle sight. Soldiers wore the shirts to mark the end of basic training and other military courses and they were first reported by the Haaretz daily.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/
This article is from 2009 by the way.
Probably Russian disinformation.
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How is it that all scholars are antisemitic? I just don’t understand. /s
Doesn’t take a scholar to know its genocide…called common sense. Which seems to be lacking in the world especially in America.
especially in America
Lack of common sense and over-the-top levels of bias.
It might take some time, but the perpetrators of this genocide will be brought to justice.
/r/worldnews : yabbut it’s not genocide because reasons
Since when was this “contrary to popular opinion”? Personally it’s blindingly obvious when Israel say they want to wipe out the Palestinians and they they’re cutting off food, water, electricity that they’re actively performing ethnic “cleansing” and genocide
Since when was this “contrary to popular opinion”?
Ask The United States, Germany, the UK, and their “free press” that claims Palestine isn’t being cleansed, and if they are, they deserve it.
The press and public opinion are two very different things
Correct, but what the press publishes and frames, and refuses to publishes is what forms public opinion.
You ask the NYT and BBC about Gaza, they’ll tell you that Gaza has always been rubble with blood in the sand.
You ask the US government and Germany about Israel’s actions and motives, they’ll advocate for your comments to be removed.
How a press and state operate can’t prohibit public opinion, but has major influence. American press helped to cover up the Yellow cake Uranium that was falsified for a illegal invasion. It didn’t stop the protests, but refused to cover protests on equal levels with Iraq/Al Quada’s actions.
Plus right now Feddit is trying to censor any criticism of Zionism, Israel, and Gaza unless it’s praise for the aggressor.
The article explains that genocide vs. genocidal violence is difficult to determine by even the most educated scholars in the field. In this case, all seven renowned researchers agree, including one from Israel, that Israel is committing genocide.
Genocide studies as a discipline does not treat the issue as a binary, the NRC report said. Rather than asking whether genocide has happened or not, scholars see it as a gradual process.
Ungor compares it to a “dimmer switch” rather than an on-off light.
“Contrary to public opinion, leading genocide researchers are surprisingly unanimous: the Netanyahu government, they say, is in that process - according to the majority, even in its final stages,” the investigation concluded. “That is why most researchers no longer speak only of ‘genocidal violence’, but of ‘genocide’.”
