I actually just got my first ropes so I could start trying to self tie! I hope I can manage to do stuff like this at some point. I’ve always been bad at knots and what not unfortunately. 😋
Super curious: Do you often use a munter hitch in non-suspended bondage? I’ve only ever used them for adjustable uplines or hoisting, I don’t think I’ve ever used one for anything outside of that.
I tried fairly regularly for a few years but haven’t in the last 5 or 6, so my memory is a little hazy. I mostly recall using it for locking off crossing lines (on a harness or what not) so they don’t shift. I can’t recall the harness names now might have been modified TKs? IMHO it looks better than lines crossing at 90 that just lay on each other.
For suspension / up lines it was always half hitch with a couple extra turns at the ring with a Y hanger(?) or single column around the ropes or carabiner hooked to the ropes.
*Brain fart, yes lock off was a munter followed by half hitches.
*The futumomo I usually tied had munters too now that I think back.
This one is actually pretty easy (in theory…) - there’s only two knots in the whole tie! But I’d say it for sure requires either an extra set of hands or the patience of a saint because you have to keep the rings from slipping in the back while you thread them thru the front (and vice-versa). All the photos of the back are a bit obscured by burnt rope so it’s not super clear, unfortunately…
And ooo, you for sure should get into self ties! Super fun stuff (tho obvs be careful etc. etc.)
Oh thank you! I definitely understand how extra hands will help. I’m tempted to try it solo, but maybe once I get comfortable with some really basic ties first. And I promise to be very careful as I learn; I made sure to get shears too! God I hope I don’t have to use them, rope is not as cheap as I would prefer lol.
Nylon is primarily what I use - I like polyhemp for it’s aesthetic value and it’s strong as heck, but that comes at it being stupid expensive and it really just doesn’t feel great against the skin. If you’re not doing suspension (or other load-bearing ties) hardware store braided nylon works just fine, holds knots well enough but it’s not so tight that I’ve never been unable to untie it (and to reiterate do NOT use it for suspension it is NOT safe). Stay away from cotton and especially do not fall into the trap of using something like cheap clothesline (the core compresses too much and becomes almost impossible to untie).
I never would have considered clothesline, that sounds pretty awful lol. Suspension stuff would probably be fun, but not going to try that until I have a partner I trust to help me. Would definitely need more rope for something like that anyway, so I’ll make sure I get something better for suspension!
Ugh yeah, it’s weirdly common. Clothesline and paracord are the biggest “noob mistakes that could cost your sub an arm” things I see new people making, so good on you for having a natural aversion to the idea!
I love suspension, but it is deceptively dangerous. You don’t quite need to have an apprenticeship under a master rigger like so many elitist dickheadsearnest members of the BDSM old-guard on the internet will tell you, but you for SURE need to be good at non-suspended bondage, have experience with rope safety (at least the online OSHA courses in suspending humans, ideally some climbing experience), an understanding of how much force a working load can generate, another person standing by to help you in case something goes wrong and a fuckload of very slow, careful research and practice before you even attempt it. It’s also expensive as fuck to do safely - rope rated for the kind of working loads a human generates is not cheap, and installing the hard-points in your building to be able to do it is not for the faint of heart.
… But like, oh man. It’s addictive once you get to where you can do it. Really recommend seeing if there’s any rope studios or similar in your area that do meetups so you can try it, it’s such a good goal to work towards being able to do.
Learning nerve placement is an overlooked aspect as well. Most people think of falls and circulation as they are very visual. But I knew more people that got hurt from nerve compression than falls.
Really? Here in germany, polyhemp and nylon are in the same price range. But yeah, in terms of feel people seem to either prefer smooth nylon or real hemp.
Yeah, where I’m at it’s ~$20 for 50’ (15m) of 3/8" (9mm) polyhemp, and ~$20 for 30m of the same in braided nylon. So polyhemp is about the same as twisted strand strand nylon (which is what I prefer for suspension). Aesthetically polyhemp wins over nylon, but for direct skin contact nylon is way my preferred choice (and unfortunately my ceilings are too low to have a full aesthetic tackle setup over my suspension bar :( )
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Oh my god, that looks amazing! 🤩
I actually just got my first ropes so I could start trying to self tie! I hope I can manage to do stuff like this at some point. I’ve always been bad at knots and what not unfortunately. 😋
You don’t need to know a ton of knots. Somerville bowline, munter hitch, half hitch, and reverse tension will get you pretty far.
Super curious: Do you often use a munter hitch in non-suspended bondage? I’ve only ever used them for adjustable uplines or hoisting, I don’t think I’ve ever used one for anything outside of that.
I tried fairly regularly for a few years but haven’t in the last 5 or 6, so my memory is a little hazy. I mostly recall using it for locking off crossing lines (on a harness or what not) so they don’t shift. I can’t recall the harness names now might have been modified TKs? IMHO it looks better than lines crossing at 90 that just lay on each other.
For suspension / up lines it was always half hitch with a couple extra turns at the ring with a Y hanger(?) or single column around the ropes or carabiner hooked to the ropes.
*Brain fart, yes lock off was a munter followed by half hitches.
*The futumomo I usually tied had munters too now that I think back.
huuh, Ill have to give that a try! Thank you for the suggestion!
One thing with Munters that was drilled into me was also making sure you’re using closed and not open munter hitches since the open ones can shift.
This one is actually pretty easy (in theory…) - there’s only two knots in the whole tie! But I’d say it for sure requires either an extra set of hands or the patience of a saint because you have to keep the rings from slipping in the back while you thread them thru the front (and vice-versa). All the photos of the back are a bit obscured by burnt rope so it’s not super clear, unfortunately…
And ooo, you for sure should get into self ties! Super fun stuff (tho obvs be careful etc. etc.)
(obscured & messy back of tie…)
Oh thank you! I definitely understand how extra hands will help. I’m tempted to try it solo, but maybe once I get comfortable with some really basic ties first. And I promise to be very careful as I learn; I made sure to get shears too! God I hope I don’t have to use them, rope is not as cheap as I would prefer lol.
As the saying goes: Getting new rope is easier than getting a new sub. :D
What rope are you using? For beginners, polyhemp is a (comparatively) cheap option - though you have to be careful about rope burns.
Wise saying. Getting a new me would be pretty difficult. 😂
I’m actually not 100% sure what type of rope it is, but I’m pretty sure it’s just nylon.
Nylon is primarily what I use - I like polyhemp for it’s aesthetic value and it’s strong as heck, but that comes at it being stupid expensive and it really just doesn’t feel great against the skin. If you’re not doing suspension (or other load-bearing ties) hardware store braided nylon works just fine, holds knots well enough but it’s not so tight that I’ve never been unable to untie it (and to reiterate do NOT use it for suspension it is NOT safe). Stay away from cotton and especially do not fall into the trap of using something like cheap clothesline (the core compresses too much and becomes almost impossible to untie).
I never would have considered clothesline, that sounds pretty awful lol. Suspension stuff would probably be fun, but not going to try that until I have a partner I trust to help me. Would definitely need more rope for something like that anyway, so I’ll make sure I get something better for suspension!
Thank you again for all the tips and insights!
Ugh yeah, it’s weirdly common. Clothesline and paracord are the biggest “noob mistakes that could cost your sub an arm” things I see new people making, so good on you for having a natural aversion to the idea!
I love suspension, but it is deceptively dangerous. You don’t quite need to have an apprenticeship under a master rigger like so many
elitist dickheadsearnest members of the BDSM old-guard on the internet will tell you, but you for SURE need to be good at non-suspended bondage, have experience with rope safety (at least the online OSHA courses in suspending humans, ideally some climbing experience), an understanding of how much force a working load can generate, another person standing by to help you in case something goes wrong and a fuckload of very slow, careful research and practice before you even attempt it. It’s also expensive as fuck to do safely - rope rated for the kind of working loads a human generates is not cheap, and installing the hard-points in your building to be able to do it is not for the faint of heart.… But like, oh man. It’s addictive once you get to where you can do it. Really recommend seeing if there’s any rope studios or similar in your area that do meetups so you can try it, it’s such a good goal to work towards being able to do.
Learning nerve placement is an overlooked aspect as well. Most people think of falls and circulation as they are very visual. But I knew more people that got hurt from nerve compression than falls.
Really? Here in germany, polyhemp and nylon are in the same price range. But yeah, in terms of feel people seem to either prefer smooth nylon or real hemp.
Yeah, where I’m at it’s ~$20 for 50’ (15m) of 3/8" (9mm) polyhemp, and ~$20 for 30m of the same in braided nylon. So polyhemp is about the same as twisted strand strand nylon (which is what I prefer for suspension). Aesthetically polyhemp wins over nylon, but for direct skin contact nylon is way my preferred choice (and unfortunately my ceilings are too low to have a full aesthetic tackle setup over my suspension bar :( )