I like to remind people that if they didn’t botch the launch and scam everyone, all these free content patches would have been DLC. They are literally buying reputation back with these patches by not charging for them. Yet everyone thinks this is simply goodwill or some personal rehabilitation campaign. It is not. It’s about money and the ability to scam again in the future. Mark my words.
my problem with this is, why wouldn’t they just walk away after selling the game? they sold a shitload of copies and probably could have just taken the money, paid themselves a handsome bonus, facetanked the false advertisement lawsuit, declare the company bankrupt and walk away with enough money to retire for life, changed his name or whatever, and lived a life of luxury, no?
They absolutely , horrendously butchered their prelaunch publicity, and the whole world roasted them for it, rightfully so. And I think if they do make another game, they’re gonna be put under a microscope for any future mistakes.
But I mean, they’ve added everything they said they were going to, plus an absolute ton of other content on top of that. For free. For a decade. I feel like that counts for something. If it were actually a scam, they would have just taken the money and ran, like you’re implying.
Is there anything about the game you think is still missing?
Agreed, kinda insane that people glossed over the launch. It was literally false advertising. Up to the day before the launch they were still talking about how the game had multiplayer.
Is there an argument you’d like to make against my conclusion? Or is applying an arbitrary expiration date to other’s interests your way of getting your point across?
Either way, I’m a fan of NMS. But I’m also familiar enough with Marxism to know better than to anthropomorphize a corporation by lending it forgiveness when that corporation would have been penalized or dissolved for its scam by any governmental regulatory body worth its salt.
The only rational play is to forever hold Hello Games accountable for its scam. Free content patches isnt rehabilitation. Firing Sean Murray, or facing criminal justice would be one avenue.
I thought I read something (many moons ago so I may be misremembering) but I thought they lost a lot of their game data in a flood or the sprinklers went off on their local servers or something like that and they decided to release a recovered version or like some local backup someone had on their computer. Is that just wrong and they tried to just over promise and under deliver on launch and that’s just it?
The big thing I remember was them doing interviews with Sean and he was hyping everything over the moon. And then the game launched without alot of the things he hyped so yeah, lots of upset folks including me.
My understanding is that it launched at least a year earlier than it should have because Sony was demanding it. It was essentially an Early Access release billed as a full 1.0.
But then they spent 10 years making up for it adding features and improving the game. In the end, the game wasn’t really for me. Turns out Inlove the idea of open world space survival, but end up finding it tedious.
But I recognize that they made up for that shitty launch as well as they possibly could have, and delivered on their promises.
This and Cyberpunk are the best comeback stories of shit game releases.
They did. Sony basically co-published the game and it was a timed Sony-exclusive with HEAVY marketing from Sony. It was the first independent game ever to be featured in their E3 conference.
My comment was referring to Sean Murray (“personal rehabilitation”).
But to address your point, do you believe Hello Games is rehabilitated? I don’t think they were ever the problem. It was marketing and leadership, not the entire group of devs.
I like to remind people that if they didn’t botch the launch and scam everyone, all these free content patches would have been DLC. They are literally buying reputation back with these patches by not charging for them. Yet everyone thinks this is simply goodwill or some personal rehabilitation campaign. It is not. It’s about money and the ability to scam again in the future. Mark my words.
Voice of reason. Period.
my problem with this is, why wouldn’t they just walk away after selling the game? they sold a shitload of copies and probably could have just taken the money, paid themselves a handsome bonus, facetanked the false advertisement lawsuit, declare the company bankrupt and walk away with enough money to retire for life, changed his name or whatever, and lived a life of luxury, no?
maybe there’s something i’m missing
They absolutely , horrendously butchered their prelaunch publicity, and the whole world roasted them for it, rightfully so. And I think if they do make another game, they’re gonna be put under a microscope for any future mistakes.
But I mean, they’ve added everything they said they were going to, plus an absolute ton of other content on top of that. For free. For a decade. I feel like that counts for something. If it were actually a scam, they would have just taken the money and ran, like you’re implying.
Is there anything about the game you think is still missing?
“Hey chatgpt, how can I downplay fraudulent marketing and blatant lies?”
I didn’t write that with chatgpt but okay
Agreed, kinda insane that people glossed over the launch. It was literally false advertising. Up to the day before the launch they were still talking about how the game had multiplayer.
10 years is a long time to hold a grudge
Is there an argument you’d like to make against my conclusion? Or is applying an arbitrary expiration date to other’s interests your way of getting your point across?
Either way, I’m a fan of NMS. But I’m also familiar enough with Marxism to know better than to anthropomorphize a corporation by lending it forgiveness when that corporation would have been penalized or dissolved for its scam by any governmental regulatory body worth its salt.
The only rational play is to forever hold Hello Games accountable for its scam. Free content patches isnt rehabilitation. Firing Sean Murray, or facing criminal justice would be one avenue.
I thought I read something (many moons ago so I may be misremembering) but I thought they lost a lot of their game data in a flood or the sprinklers went off on their local servers or something like that and they decided to release a recovered version or like some local backup someone had on their computer. Is that just wrong and they tried to just over promise and under deliver on launch and that’s just it?
Nah, thats something else I think.
The big thing I remember was them doing interviews with Sean and he was hyping everything over the moon. And then the game launched without alot of the things he hyped so yeah, lots of upset folks including me.
My understanding is that it launched at least a year earlier than it should have because Sony was demanding it. It was essentially an Early Access release billed as a full 1.0.
But then they spent 10 years making up for it adding features and improving the game. In the end, the game wasn’t really for me. Turns out Inlove the idea of open world space survival, but end up finding it tedious.
But I recognize that they made up for that shitty launch as well as they possibly could have, and delivered on their promises.
This and Cyberpunk are the best comeback stories of shit game releases.
I mean, I wouldn’t put it past Sony to do something like that, but I’m not sure they had a big hand in no mans sky’s launch.
They did. Sony basically co-published the game and it was a timed Sony-exclusive with HEAVY marketing from Sony. It was the first independent game ever to be featured in their E3 conference.
I love it how trust was destroyed so profoundly, we effectively slam the door shut on these people to rehabilitate, should they ever want to.
Not that it matters in the medium-term.
My comment was referring to Sean Murray (“personal rehabilitation”).
But to address your point, do you believe Hello Games is rehabilitated? I don’t think they were ever the problem. It was marketing and leadership, not the entire group of devs.
maybe they would have charged, but you can’t say that for certain. there are many games that had a good launch with free content post launch. however…
the game came out almost 10 years ago. it’s time for people to let it go.
the price of admission far outweighs the value of the current game.