KDE is an unopinionated Windows clone built of a shitty proprietary base. Stuff mostly works well though, I can’t deny that. It just looks and feels like crap.
GNOME development is stupid. They have a binding for every language you can imagine, but the widgets leave you up shit creek and Gnome thinks it’s smarter than you. Gnome looks pretty good, but after trying in earnest I don’t want to work with it.
Here – here’s how you configure it to have all the decorations left-aligned if you want that for some reason. Took me all of 20 seconds:
sandwich buttons on sidebars
Not sure which sidebars you’re talking about … and not sure whether you’re complaining about having the sandwich buttons there (and apparently not being able to get rid of them?) or if you’re complaining that the sandwich buttons aren’t somewhere else instead.
no native toolbar widgets
Again, not sure which toolbar you’re talking about? Must be talking about some app’s toolbar, right? Because if you want ‘toolbar widgets’ on the desktop, you could easily add an extra ‘panel’ at the top, call it a toolbar, and put various widgets in it.
You can do some light theming, but the overall way it works is the same.
Eh… I think you just haven’t really gotten into it. You can do a lot to change how KDE works. Like … crazy a lot. It’s kind of (in)famous for being so customizable.
If you go into specifics about how you want it to work, I bet I can figure out a way to make it work like that.
I actually kind of hate both.
KDE is an unopinionated Windows clone built of a shitty proprietary base. Stuff mostly works well though, I can’t deny that. It just looks and feels like crap.
GNOME development is stupid. They have a binding for every language you can imagine, but the widgets leave you up shit creek and Gnome thinks it’s smarter than you. Gnome looks pretty good, but after trying in earnest I don’t want to work with it.
I don’t want my DE to have opinions. I just want it to do what I tell it to.
Proprietary base?
I think he is posting from 1999, objecting to the use of the Qt libraries under the GPL-incompatible QPL licence.
It’s the best guess I have.
And indeed, KDE 1.0 didn’t look all that good.
The mascot used to be way better though
Where’s the 200 porn pictures of Kandalf
QT
But … you can easily change how it looks?
Not really.
You’re still stuck with right aligned decorations, sandwich buttons on sidebars, no native toolbar widgets, etc.
You can do some light theming, but the overall way it works is the same.
It’s not sufficient.
Uh … no you’re not.
Here – here’s how you configure it to have all the decorations left-aligned if you want that for some reason. Took me all of 20 seconds:
Not sure which sidebars you’re talking about … and not sure whether you’re complaining about having the sandwich buttons there (and apparently not being able to get rid of them?) or if you’re complaining that the sandwich buttons aren’t somewhere else instead.
Again, not sure which toolbar you’re talking about? Must be talking about some app’s toolbar, right? Because if you want ‘toolbar widgets’ on the desktop, you could easily add an extra ‘panel’ at the top, call it a toolbar, and put various widgets in it.
Eh… I think you just haven’t really gotten into it. You can do a lot to change how KDE works. Like … crazy a lot. It’s kind of (in)famous for being so customizable.
If you go into specifics about how you want it to work, I bet I can figure out a way to make it work like that.
I’m pretty sure he’s talking about client-side decorations.
Never tell a Linux user you can’t change something…
What’s your poison?
Currently I use KDE plasma but I’d like to migrate off.