This is what I’ve wanted for a while. Small, electric, simple. Decent range too. Now when can I buy it in the states? Oh wait never… man fuck these American car manufacturers. I don’t want a giant SUV or a king cab pickup that I can’t see a full grown adult directly in front of me.
I dig the kinda subdued rocket rabbit kit look.
Good, more EVs is more better!
I just did an informal poll at my workplace and nobody is terribly interested in hot cakes.
No shit, an electric hatchback has got to be fun as hell to drive and infinitely more practical than 99% of hulking, maintenance prone ICE cars.
assuming the following is true, this is a new car I would actually buy
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no LED headlights (they are dangerous and rude)
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you can disable the fake engine noise and transmission behaviour
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the touchscreen is minimal and crucial controls are not locked behind menus or on the touchscreen in the first place
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there aren’t excessive privacy concerns or lockouts preventing user maintenance
The last two points are very valid but I think the fake engine noise while driving is pretty important for safety, no? Personally, I cant drive and usually get around by bike or on foot where a car that’s totally silent can be dangerous if you don’t see it coming
so, I meant fake engine noise in the cabin, not external noise
however, I’m also against that godawful sound that cars make at low speed. it’s infuriatingly disturbing. their tires make enough goddamn noise already. I understand the reason for it, and it accomplishes its job, and my opinion is that I hate it. I hate-stare at drivers whose vehicle is making that whirring noise whenever one is near me
In the US cars are supposed to emit a Pedestrian Warning System (PWS) at low speeds. This not a vroom-vroom. Cars make plenty of noise, even EV .
no LED headlights (they are dangerous and rude)
Can you explain why you think LED headlights are either of those?
they’re blinding, preventing oncoming people from being able to see. and because lowbeams are just as bright as highbeams, just aimed lower, even lowbeams blind people. drive anywhere in a hilly area and this becomes apparent.
they’re also obscene to be blasting into pedestrian and cyclist eyes in low speed neighbourhoods with streetlights. like how would those drivers feel if I walked around with a 4000lumen flashlight pointed at their eyes as they drive.
Too bright and concentrated. Both US and Canada will be regulating them.
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Oh hey, a car that’s basically what I wanted. A reasonably sized and priced electric hatchback.
Not in the market for a new car though
Canada will get Renault EVs as soon as next year…Alpine brand.
That car is going to cost twice or even thrice as much. Alpine is a premium performance brand.
US is not one of their listed market options/ambitions.
No one is buying EVs, tariffs and the economy is shit until 2030 or longer.
tariffs are confusing. Courts keep striking them down. Used EVs are doing very well in current gas crisis. Cheap subcompact hatchbacks should appeal for same general reason.
BYD should get in this hot hatch business and make a sporty version of one of their small models
Performance sounds about like my Leaf after upgrading the battery. This part made me lol tho: " fake 7-speed transmission and Active Sound Control system to emulate the sounds and jerk feeling of an old-school internal combustion engine (ICE) sports car." No thanks, but I’d buy the non-sports model they based it on.
Engineering Explained tested out Hyundai’s offering if an electric car with shifting. I tend to agree with most of what he says on his channel, and he’s certainly a gear head, so I trust that it can be implemented in a fun way.
I tend to agree with most of what he says on his channel
Careful with that guy, he reads off corporate scripts a lot. And for a gear head, he makes a lot of stupid purchases.
I agree we should be careful with his sponsored videos. But i do appreciate that he makes it so obvious when he reads from the talking points they give him. I don’t think he has a bad track record as such with cars. I think he just enjoys trying new things with his second car, as he seems to always have an ol’ reliable one off to the side.
without the sound through speakers, it seems a bit like manual power settings on an ebike. Caps the max speed to a gear/PAS number.
Goddamnit, why wasn’t this a thing 3 years ago, when we were LOOKING for an EV in this price-range?
Because the industry is consolidated enough that it’s possible for them ignore consumer preference and focus on high margin, low capital investment projects to pump stock values.
Now there is a set of new competitors not beholden to the pressure of the US/Japanese/European/Korean stock markets that are threatening to take massive market share, (Chinese EV companies).
“we”? Aren’t people still looking for EVs in this price range?
I meant my wife and I, specifically.
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Renault has also sold out its EV Renault 5 Turbo 3E.
The winners in this transition will be manufacturers who design EVs to sell, not EVs designed to generate hate for EVs.
…with a fake 7-speed transmission and Active Sound Control system to emulate the sounds and jerk feeling of an old-school internal combustion engine…
WTF
Aah, it’s for jerks
As long as you can turn it off… People who want that really do baffle me, though
I want that. It sounds genuinely fun. Hyundai’s Ioniq 5 N has that sort of thing and it got a ton of positive reviews.
It’s something you think you want, until you hear silence.
By petrol head idiots who think popping exhausts are cool and attract women.
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My 2019 VW GTI has this, not because it’s electric and has no engine, but because the sound dampening between the engine bay and cabin is so good that the engineers thought it necessary. It’s the first thing I disabled. So dumb.
They think jerking back and forth and making noise is “soul”.
I’ve heard of some people feeling motion sick without the same feedback as an ICE vehicle. Could be helpful for them.
Annectodal, but whatever acceleration curve Toyota uses in its hybrids makes me sick so quickly. I haven’t had many problems in Chevy PHEVs or EVs, teslas, or Kia EVs, but I do often get motion sick in ICE vehicles. Not as badly as Toyota hybrids though.
might just be their suspension setup on the hybrids
I remember when I test drove a fourth gen Outback and it felt worse than a van. that was enough to prove they had killed the wagon for good
People get motion sick in EVs because they are heavy and the suspension has a hard time damping. It has nothing to do with “ICE feedback”. It’s the same effect as seasickness.
Hearing things is also a form of sickness … Is that why they mimic ICE car feedback on sailboats, trains, bicycles and walking shoes?
They could have leaned into it and have F&F mode where it’s just up shifting constantly as you’re cruising at 30mph
We can have it use the mario64 infinite staircase music method.
Maybe they could make a mode where the electric vehicle UFO noise they make so you can hear them coming gets louder when you accelerate
It would be funny of people hacked it to play whatever sound it wanted like the pacman wakwaka sound.
We call it the ghost taking a shit sound.
Sound like movie the dilemma
Fake car engine sound
I do wish they had better soundproofing though. No engine noise means you hear all these annoying sounds from tires on the road unless you turn your radio up to ear damaging levels. On my commute there is an area that had temporary lane markings during construction and the method they used to remove them roughed up the tarmac in a way that makes the tires go “meep meep meep meep” while you drive over them, and they’re right where most tires are when driving in the middle of the lane. When I drive my IC car I can’t hear them, but if I’m driving my wife’s EV I either have to hug one side of the lane, crank up the radio, or have my nerves set on edge by this horrible sound.
EVs all day in general, I’ll make the switch when the time for a new car comes, but this aspect of them does suck.
EVs have special low noise tires with a foam liner. Also, you have misophonia.
Thank you for your diagnosis Dr SaveTheTuaHawk, rest assured I’ll give it exactly the amount of weight it deserves.
I’m pretty sure most people find irregularly spaced high-pitched buzzing noises unpleasant; smoke detectors don’t play lullabies for a reason.
The lack of engine noise making every road sound and creak from the car audible is a common complaint. Just because EVs are superior, doesn’t make them perfect.
It’s a common and totally fair enough complaint in terms of subjective aesthetic enjoyment, but it’s not physically possible that the lack of engine noise results in overall more noise which would make it necessary to turn up the stereo louder than otherwise necessary in order to drown it out. Combustion engine cars have tires too.
Oh no, obviously overall they’re quieter, that’s why you can hear all that stuff. It’s always been there, just masked by the engine. I’m saying IC engines act as a kind of white noise machine that drownes out the rest, and in the absence of that, my only option is louder music.
And again, I’m not knocking EVs in general, they’re superior and I’m making the switch next car purchase, but if it was possible (I know it’s not) to get Rolls Royce levels of sound proofing without unreasonable costs, I would prefer it.
Since opening preorders in Japan on April 21, Kawasaka said the new EV has secured over 7,000 reservations in about a month
The Super-ONE is powered by the same 29.6 kWh battery as the N-ONE e, offering a WLTP driving range of up to 274 km (170 miles) with fast charging (up to 80%) capabilities in about 30 minutes.
After launching in Japan, the Super-One will go on sale in Europe, the UK, Australia, and other overseas markets shortly.
30 kWh and 170 miles range?! That’s >5 mi/kWh, I haven’t seen anything run that well (consistently). Big if true for everyone - I’d buy one in an instant if Honda had a little more BEV chops, I’m still a bit skeptical of them.
My first EV was an eGolf with a 24 kWh battery. At its peak that was 100 mi range (was rated 80-something). Would have killed for this back then.
Small battery = less mass to carry = less energy required to move
Combined with modern motors and you get this kind of performance
Kinda like an analogous concept as the rocket equation, where adding range requires adding enough fuel to carry the weight of the additional fuel.
and other overseas markets shortly.
Such aaaaas… Manifest Destiny Land?
Haha good one. That government will block it from ever reaching its shores. It’ll be a pleasant surprise if it happens though.
It sounds like a kei car so already not street lega
Too bad. I would love to move to a Hyundai Casper, personally.
Super-One
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Curious to see if Mini reacts. Though I guess Mercedes didn’t with the e. Maybe they’ll call the next one golf.
