I joined a subscription-based social media platform recently that’s focused on intellectually honest and good faith discussion about pretty much anything. I never thought a bunch of strangers could act that civilly toward each other online. The contrast to other platforms like Lemmy cannot be overstated. No outrage, no grandstanding, no smug and dismissive responses, and no insults whatsoever. There’s plenty of disagreement there, but it’s all handled the way you’d expect adults to behave.
Don’t know whether it’ll stay that way, but I’ll enjoy it while it lasts.
makes sense. they are financially invested so they don’t want to shit where they eat, so to speak, also probably a lot of similarities as you are all willing to pay for this service.
they also probably don’t feel they ‘own’ the space. this is what i notice a lot with lemmy at least seems to be the undercurrent, tons of folks here want this to be a space exclusively for themselves, and they go around with the ‘get off my lawn’ attitude. but the problem is lemmy is like doing that in times square, and it is not your lawn.
I’m tempted to conclude that actually paying for the service is the key factor here, but I’m not sure. It’s a highly self-selected userbase after all - people who joined the platform specifically to have these kinds of tough conversations.
Perhaps it could work on a free platform as well. I guess the major difference is that getting banned comes with a real monetary cost and you can’t just create a new account in two minutes and go back to being obnoxious.
It also incentivizes the admin team to keep the place in a state where people are willing to keep paying. In this case it’s the userbase they need to please - not the advertisers.
being very topic specific generally works out better for most online spaces. it’s just easier all around.
it’s the more generalist stuff that is impossible. i used to do well on reddit int he 2010s because i was a part of small communities that were very specific… and anytime anything got front-paged it went to shit for DAYS as we got influxed by outsiders who had no experience or interest, but just wanted to tell people off, or think the community itself was horrible for existing. the community got used in a few academic research papers and painted as entirely negative, based on like a handful of bad posts by bad actors too… gotta love that. that 'outsider looking in and judging everyone based on ‘most controversial’ posts… type of thing.
I joined a subscription-based social media platform recently that’s focused on intellectually honest and good faith discussion about pretty much anything. I never thought a bunch of strangers could act that civilly toward each other online. The contrast to other platforms like Lemmy cannot be overstated. No outrage, no grandstanding, no smug and dismissive responses, and no insults whatsoever. There’s plenty of disagreement there, but it’s all handled the way you’d expect adults to behave.
Don’t know whether it’ll stay that way, but I’ll enjoy it while it lasts.
Ikr. Lemmy and piefed are gifts to humanity.
makes sense. they are financially invested so they don’t want to shit where they eat, so to speak, also probably a lot of similarities as you are all willing to pay for this service.
they also probably don’t feel they ‘own’ the space. this is what i notice a lot with lemmy at least seems to be the undercurrent, tons of folks here want this to be a space exclusively for themselves, and they go around with the ‘get off my lawn’ attitude. but the problem is lemmy is like doing that in times square, and it is not your lawn.
I’m tempted to conclude that actually paying for the service is the key factor here, but I’m not sure. It’s a highly self-selected userbase after all - people who joined the platform specifically to have these kinds of tough conversations.
Perhaps it could work on a free platform as well. I guess the major difference is that getting banned comes with a real monetary cost and you can’t just create a new account in two minutes and go back to being obnoxious.
It also incentivizes the admin team to keep the place in a state where people are willing to keep paying. In this case it’s the userbase they need to please - not the advertisers.
being very topic specific generally works out better for most online spaces. it’s just easier all around.
it’s the more generalist stuff that is impossible. i used to do well on reddit int he 2010s because i was a part of small communities that were very specific… and anytime anything got front-paged it went to shit for DAYS as we got influxed by outsiders who had no experience or interest, but just wanted to tell people off, or think the community itself was horrible for existing. the community got used in a few academic research papers and painted as entirely negative, based on like a handful of bad posts by bad actors too… gotta love that. that 'outsider looking in and judging everyone based on ‘most controversial’ posts… type of thing.
Yeah, this platform is a based on a subreddit as well. Not a place anyone stumbles upon by accident.