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You can even say they Cachy Up to Arch
I’ll show myself out
To be fair, they are looking at distro numbers on ProtonDB. It’s not surprising that a distro made for and aimed at gamers is going to be popular in that context.
I mean, it’s currently also the most popular distribution on DistroWatch.com. I realize neither metric is perfect, notably because there’s no tracking in Linux as opposed to non-free OSs, but it shows it’s extremely popular and well-reviewed.
Yep, all I have ever seen from that website is articles making grand statements based on protondb statistics that don’t support them. At least now they have a list of disclaimers at the top that let you know reading the rest of the article is pointless.
Even their disclaimers are biased though like “This may not be completely representative of all Linux gamers either.”. Ooh, “may not be”, you don’t say… I would guesstimate that not even 20% of Linux gamers make reports on protondb.
Also, ignoring all the misuse and misunderstanding of statistics, who cares what distro is supposedly most popular. Use what works for you.
It is Arch? It’s like saying Ubuntu is bigger than Debian.
Even more, as Ubuntu has many differences from Debian in choices of packages, configuration and ubuntu’s snap focus and monetizing schemes AND it’s not a rolling release. CachyOS is just a nice installer to jump into rolling Arch.
CachyOS is more than just a nice installer, they also have additional repos with packages built with optimizations for specific architectures and some simple utilities to make common operations easier.
It’s still fundamentally Arch with extras, but I think that’s mostly a good thing.
Yeah, its almost the most Arch can be customized/preconfigured without changing Arch packages.
Which is just about perfect, IMO.
CachyOS is just a nice installer to jump into rolling Arch.
https://github.com/CachyOS/kernel-patches says otherwise
You can install the cachy kernel on plain arch.
can’t you also install snaps on Debian?
True but the wrong claim was that Cachy is merely a fancy installer for regular Arch.
No I think the claim was: Cachy IS arch.
It adds a fancy installer and it’s own kernel and some other things. But that doesn’t make it less arch.
So I gave an example from the other direction: if you take your arch and apply all the things that cachy does extra, it will still be arch.
I think the key here is the word “distro”/“distribution”.
If you take your arch and change the way software is distributed to it, by lets say uninstalling pacman and installing apt (and modifying everything else that’s related to this change so it works properly) then it would become debian.
It adds a fancy installer and it’s own kernel and some other things.
So not merely a fancy installer for Arch. Thanks for proving me right.
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Just because it is based on Arch does not mean it is bigger. Look at Manjaro or many other Archlinux based distributions; they have less users on gaming than base Arch.
That’s because of the bloat. xD Archlinux is a minimal by default, that’s why its smaller. And yes, I know exactly what I’m doing here.
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I love it like I loved Antergos (RIP). I’ve done “real” Arch and ran it for years but I don’t care enough anymore to configure and install every inconsequential thing, so Cachy is perfect. I really just want the newest software and AUR but the optimisations Cachy offers are also a huge bonus
To me Cachy is too opinionated and does too much. In example I don’t like they went with Alacritty, BTRFS and Fish shell by default. If I have to change the deafults anyway, then why would I need the distribution? The only thing that would be of interest to me is the custom Kernel for gaming optimized performance. I think that can be installed on Archlinux too, but I never tried it. Therefore I prefer EndeavourOS, which is basically Archlinux easy mode for initial installation and setup phase. I wanted to try out Cachy too, but there is just no reason for me to use it over Endeavour.
I don’t remember what the shell and terminal emulator situation looked like, but I do remember that the installer specifically asks you to choose how you want to partition, so it seems unfair to me to complain about it being the “default”.
I put it on my laptop, which I barely use, and just had it still running Win10 until the SSD died. It seems really nice for that purpose, to just get a quick and easy install for a secondary device, while keeping access to everything else I like about Arch.
Well, that wasn’t a “complain” as a default by me. Its a valid choice (besides Fish I think), I just don’t agree with that choice. What I meant is, if I don’t use this default anyway, then why would I need to install the distribution of it? It’s like choosing Kubuntu to install, only to remove it and then turn it into GNOME. I know this is an extreme example, but hopefully that makes it a bit more clear what I initially meant.
The Cachy kernel is in the AUR if you’re brave enough.
I gotta say that I agree with many of Cachy’s choices. I use Garuda, which makes many of the same choices and uses them effectively. For example, BTRFS is a good default choice if you also have default Snapper with pre- and post- update snapshots.
I just go with Arch proper. I install once, and it’s like 30 mins versus years and years of use, so the installation part is pretty inconsequential.
Picking my own software is of highest value.
I second this. The only issue for me was not knowing what to install and use.
E.g. I didn’t know about the sound, and used something old (PulseAudio?) before I learned it should be PipeWire / WirePlumber (or something like that). Honestly, I still don’t understand that properly.
But the point is, I had my sound working ok. Then I had some use case, when it didn’t work. Perhaps with my Bluetooth headphones. Then I just switched to a better newer system, and the thing was resolved automatically.
Theoretically, there might be other aspects of the system when you simply not aware of them. But I think there are not too many, after all. Since I use my Arch Linux computers (PC and laptops, and even a couple of once-Windows tablets now running Arch too) all the time, I mostly settled. And now I don’t even need to reinstall, and setup things, like ever. I needed to migrate to a newer laptop, and to some other computer, I just cloned my system, and was done with it.
With any derivative distro, there’s no confidence in it being present in, say, 5 years. I’m pretty confident in Arch at this point.
Not saying them, derivative distros are bad. If they allow new people jump wagon, great. They’re comfortable with Arch, and perhaps it’s even trivial to rebase such a distro to pure Arch at some point. And I hope them (these distros) contribute to the mainline, not just parasitising off the original work, like DHH et al.
Also curious what you have against those particular things you listed.
- Alacritty
- Btrfs
- Fish shell??❤️❤️(Best shell)
I like fish, but I don’t think I’d use it as my default shell
Force of habit is very strong. I was enthusiastic about trying another shell and committed myself to breaking my habit and learning something new, and I’m oh so glad I did.
I like them both. All I have to do to switch is type bash at the fish command line and I’m instantly in bash.
There’s really nothing about bash that I “like”. Bash is just bash—it’s the baseline. Then there are things that fish does better, and there are things that fish does differently. But there’s absolutely nothing that I feel that bash does better than fish.
I used Alacritty and Fish before and I’m not interested into the features and complexity of BTRFS. Alacritty is a fine editor and wouldn’t mind using, but it lacks features to me and there are better alternatives. I would prefer Kitty. Right now I use Konsole and that’s good. Fish on the other hand, is more problematic to me. I use the terminal a lot and I am used to Bash, even write lot of Bash scripts. They are very similar, but still different and not compatible; so for me its a struggle in the terminal to remember the differences between Fish and Bash. There is 0 reason for me to use Fish and prefer Bash.
I would prefer Kitty.
Is there any particular reason why you prefer that one specifically? Out of all the newer terminal emulators I have tried, the only one I disliked more than kitty was warp.
I’m not the one you asked, but I use Kitty.
It’s the only terminal emulator that has consistently worked without bugs for me out of all the terminal emulators I’ve tried. And I’ve tried soooo many. Probably about 20, given them all serious time and a real shot, configuring each to my liking.
One thing I don’t like about Kitty is its configuration file format. 🫤
I used both when I was a tiling window manager user. Kitty is feature rich and has everything I would want. I would prefer over Alacritty, because I miss feature. However on my last OS installation, I kept Konsole (from KDE) as terminal emulator before I did all the basic setups and was planning on installing Kitty again. But it turned out that Konsole is excellent and there was no need to change, so kept using it.
Why did you dislike Kitty?
The protocols designed for Kitty are great, but I when I last gave Kitty itself a try, I felt it was extremely opinionated in a very off-putting way.
It was advertised as being highly extensible and scriptable, but despite that, I found it to be less flexible than my old setup which wired up tmux with Python scripts. For instance, I was able to track which pane was previously active when creating a new split, allowing me to have the newly-created pane’s bashrc read the old pane’s bash /proc/ entry to copy the environment variables. That wasn’t possible in Kitty. And although Kitty’s splits layout were functional, resizing the splits themselves was an unconfigurable pain in the ass because the sizing is based on width/height rather than bounding boxes.
I would normally chalk that up to growing pains of a new project, but reading through the GitHub issues and documentation didn’t leave me with the impression that the author cared about how something could be done in Kitty, but only that it could be done in the most basic sense. If the user’s workflow would benefit from having a partial overlay or popup, tough shit—they can either use a full overlay or create a layout for it.
It didn’t sit well with me, and moving to Kitty full time would have been a downgrade in productivity for practically no real benefit.
I got an nvidia 2070s, ever since switching from manjaro to catchy, its Russian roulette whether I boot to emergency mode after updates lol. Never had that problem with manjaro. Tbh manjaro was the most stable Linux experience I’ve had. Too bad the team fell apart.
I used Manjaro for 1.5 years. It was relatively stable, with the exception its package manager, as it was buggy, especially with the AUR. Let alone using the AUR could create problems with packages depending from the regular repository. The holding back of repository also had another issue for me, as updates could take forever if they missed the update cycle of Manjaro. Also I didn’t like the team much too. My point is not here to make look Manjaro worse or anything like that, just talking about my personal issues.
I switched way before the team fall apart, to EndeavourOS. And it is exactly what I was hoping from Manjaro to be, just closer to Archlinux. As to your stability issues with CachyOS. Do you think its the Nvidia driver (as you named your card specifically)?
You know I never spent too much time troubleshooting it. This was my first time running btrfs out of the box, so I just use a previous snapshot until one of the updates eventually works. Kind of annoying though. Seems like the issue is a few services JM NIR familiar with fail to start. You’re right though, its possible its not the video driver.
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