cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/34367979

More barriers to cycling means more cars which means more dead cyclists. Help us defeat this terrible anti-safety bill.

  • Scratch@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    I dunno man.

    A small vehicle, that can rip along streets at similar speeds to mopeds and motor bikes?

    I’m very in favour of wider adoption. But carte blanche for any kid or fuckhead to lobotomise themselves or others needs a second look.

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        7 months ago

        No. I don’t think so.

        You can get fucked up walking. You can get fucked up standing still. You can get fucked up while asleep in your bed.

        The difference is the risk of getting fucked up, being fucked up by someone else and the amount of fucking up a given tier of activity presents.

    • whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      At least you started your comment by making it clear that you don’t know.

      There are already clearly defined laws and definitions for ebike classes, which are distinct from mopeds and motorcycles.

      Its not carte blanche or wild west or any other silly idiom.

      The problem isn’t ebikes. The problem is unlicensed electric motorcycles.

      Ebikes are a good thing. They blow cars out of the water with how much much more environmentally friendly and cost effective they are. Requiring license plates and possibly insurance is a huge disincentive. Also pointed out by another user in this thread is that it enables the tracking of your location by all of these horrible flock cameras.

      If kids are ripping along the streets on illegal electric motorcycles, what we need is law enforcement, not new laws targeted at those who already are following the existing law.

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        7 months ago

        I agree with the spirit of your post. Entirely.

        Yes, enforcement is certainly an issue.

        However, here in Ontario any moped that has pedals is an e-bike, legally speaking. I’ve seen one with the most limp-twisted effort to qualify as a bike and be therefore street legal. But it still has all the qualities that cause me concern.

        What we need is better classifications. A small standing e-scooter that can’t break 15kph shouldn’t be treated the same as a moped with pedals that can get 60kph.

    • dickalan@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      The solution to the world’s problems is less people not more people, if idiots want to lobotomize themselves by being a idiot on a scooter then that’s all the better for society