There’s the ones that you kind of get swooned by and kinda back their cause, like Agent Smith.
Then there’s the ones that are just bad, but you get it. Some people just be psychopathic.
Then there’s Vecna types and you’re like, “What’s the plan here, huh? You get your way and then what? Nothing’s left to do. Like, at all.”
Sauron’s another one. Ultimate rule and order… Cool-cool. So he gets that and then what? Why? Just sit and watch Middle Earth like a model railway in the back shed for the next few eons? Wooooow.
For Sauron, yes exactly that. He was a Maiar of the Valar of craftsmanship who was swayed by Morgoth. He almost certainly would very much like just leading in a world that rejects the natural wildness to be replaced with a mechanical and industrial order. In the same way that Radagast would like nothing more than going camping forever.
Okay so… Sauron is a bit more to it. Melkor/Morgoth, his Valar, sung into existence evil into middle earth during the song of creation, by joining in with dissonance. In doing so he insured that his power and his being would forever be tied to Middle Earth, manifested through the creation of evil itself. Evil will never leave middle earth because of this.
Sauron wants to continue this endeavor, and seeks to overthrow the maiar in middle earth (the white, grey, brown, and blue wizards) and rise to the status of a valar. He then wants to overthrow the Valar’s influence over middle earth, as they were the ones that ultimately slew his master, Morgoth.
This is still ultimately foolhardy, as he then would have to contend with Eru Illuvitar, literally god.
I always struggle with villains like that.
There’s the ones that you kind of get swooned by and kinda back their cause, like Agent Smith.
Then there’s the ones that are just bad, but you get it. Some people just be psychopathic.
Then there’s Vecna types and you’re like, “What’s the plan here, huh? You get your way and then what? Nothing’s left to do. Like, at all.”
Sauron’s another one. Ultimate rule and order… Cool-cool. So he gets that and then what? Why? Just sit and watch Middle Earth like a model railway in the back shed for the next few eons? Wooooow.
For Sauron, yes exactly that. He was a Maiar of the Valar of craftsmanship who was swayed by Morgoth. He almost certainly would very much like just leading in a world that rejects the natural wildness to be replaced with a mechanical and industrial order. In the same way that Radagast would like nothing more than going camping forever.
Okay so… Sauron is a bit more to it. Melkor/Morgoth, his Valar, sung into existence evil into middle earth during the song of creation, by joining in with dissonance. In doing so he insured that his power and his being would forever be tied to Middle Earth, manifested through the creation of evil itself. Evil will never leave middle earth because of this.
Sauron wants to continue this endeavor, and seeks to overthrow the maiar in middle earth (the white, grey, brown, and blue wizards) and rise to the status of a valar. He then wants to overthrow the Valar’s influence over middle earth, as they were the ones that ultimately slew his master, Morgoth.
This is still ultimately foolhardy, as he then would have to contend with Eru Illuvitar, literally god.
It’s a pet peeve of mine too. Like, it’s not the physical ground or buildings or borders that make up the thing that you want to rule over.
It’s also similar to how I feel about the “burn it all down” political takes.
Hmm
Doesn’t Aaragon become King? Sort of the same thing. Seems like two billionaires squabbling over their property line.