I decided to not be bitter and i followed a liberal influencer for like a week (they dont make political content usually) but today they posted that BULLSHIT about how trump is causing wars as a cover for the files and i had to unfollow. nobody is starting wars over that, theyre starting wars for capital and resources.

what the fuck is a ”eipstein class”? just those guys on the files? are the billionaires who refused or were not invited alright with you?

and of course the religious zealots doing the bit about how eipstein was satan incarnate while churning out money for their pastor to buy a new mansion.

the prolecattleiat is not being elevated to sapience by this situation alone. people have to read theory which is why i encourage them to do so. libs, anarchists and conservatives have the balls to talk about how mao, stalin and other leaders were also pedophiles or ray peests so communism is not worth it either so we just need a matriarchy as if a capitalist system would be fine if women were in charge.

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    The lumpenproletetiat are ones the captial class has excluded fron easy access as a prolteriat. The black prison populafion in the US exists even though it’s a net cost to the state because it benefits the white population from labour competition and therefore preserves wage inflation and their greater cut of imperialist superprofits.

    The likes of the PSL (only bringing this one up because of the rampant apologism on LG for this group. You can make the same case for all the other sickle and hammer cosplayers too) does not want to examine this dynamic because a greater share of the support draws from the latter group at the expense of the former. And the reason they have to particpate in electoralism is because there is not anything they can offer materially more to the white settler nation than what the inperialist state offers, and given they are meant to be marxist-leninist ie the material comes before the idea, it then begs the question why have they failed for several years to have any real question on labour aristocracy or settlerism.

    The revolutionary groups are cleqrly those that you can offer maferiallly more than the imperialist state, which then will have to include the lumpenproleriat. It is why marxist prison movements are a thing.

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      Most of the lumpenprole around me traffic drugs, women, weapons, gambling and are heavily intertwined with the legal apparatus, so I’m not seeing them willing to work hard for the rest of their lives in hopes of reaping rewards for their children. Don’t get me wrong, as long as you stay in your lane, they’re not going out of their way to bother you, but plenty of tax free money is hard to beat.

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        Just from your example you can deduce there are more women lumpenproleteriat than the ones exploiting them. It is not that lumpenprolteriat are intrinsically revolutionary just like bourgoisie proleteriat aren’t intrinsically revolutionary.

        traffic drugs, women, weapons, gambling

        Capitalist states and the bourgoisie proletriat who work for them are already engaged in this.

        Consider maybe that who is a crimimal and who isn’t is by the power dynamics of any given capitalist society ie capitalist class dictats

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          The trafficked women become complicit to lure more in. It starts with the drugs, or loss of a job, or both. They have to want to be done with all of it, and be done with all of it for a while. Even then, loyalty to the abusers is the last thing to die, especially when it’s your blood family.