and if yes then when?

  • Skyline969@piefed.ca
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    1 day ago

    Not with LLMs. AGI needs reasoning which LLMs are fundamentally incapable of.

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      The taxonomy gets confusing because reasoning in LLMs is different from the reasoning of people.

      In LLMs, iirc it’s just the ability to talk to themselves for a while before answering the user.

      In people, it’s linked to many different skills and aspects of thinking in a broad sense.

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        19 hours ago

        Yes, so-called “reasoning” LLMs do just “talk” to themselves. Adding this and calling it reasoning was the LLM industry’s way to print more money by confusing (tricking) normal people and investors. “AGI is right around the corner, we already having reasoning models.” The same industry stole the “agents” terminology from standard computing as well, because to most of the population, this makes them sound more capable than a normal LLM. It’s an infinite money glitch, or at least, it has been. I hope that the money is starting to run dry, given the new token restrictions being implemented.

        I do think humanity will eventually get to AGI. However, I don’t think it’s going to involve LLMs.