• imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I will gladly wait 1 minute of video loading before playing than watch 2 skippable ads that I need to click skip on.

    Hell, I will go rampage and claim that I’ll wait 5 minutes before video starts rather than watch a single 30s ad.

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        Is there anything in your life worth standing up for? Doesn’t sound like it. Sounds like you have zero experience with principal.

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          I have quite a bit to stand up for. But I’m not waiting double out quintuple the tone a single ad takes. You all would fucking die if you saw what TV used to be like. You just ignore the ads. You all act like you have to be glued to the screen the entire time. Do I like ads? No. Well I phone, and go out of my way to avoid using the products advertised? Yes. Would I wait 5 minutes instead of 30 service through an ad? No. Because my time is more valuable then that.

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            Well, the good news is you don’t have to wait. There are already a dozen ways to block ads. I don’t even see ads anymore. On anything that I own or is on my network.

            And ads back in the day didn’t literally track you. I grew up in the 90s with surge and Nintendo and super soakers. Tons of ads that didn’t promote dollar store shitty items sold by everyone and their brother for a quick buck that were not crammed down your throat. Today is ridiculous, they literally track every second/sq foot you go inside a store, Google apple ibeacon, or look at the eink price tags that will change by the minute depending on who is near it. It’s created to extract every dime from your pocket.

            TV ads of yesteryear is nothing of the privacy invasion trash of today, literally listening to your mic and announcing you’re pregnant to your family based on a few past purchases.

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/

            Show me an old school TV that would out you like that.

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            You all would fucking die if you saw what TV used to be like.

            I know. And that is the reason I am not watching cable anymore.

            You just ignore the ads.

            Rather than using my mental agility to ignore something, I used it to remove that something instead. And that is much better.

            Also, if I ignore something, advertiser wont get my money. So why would I ignore it if I wont be paying for this crap anyway? Just skip watching it entirely. Advertiser wont lose anything regardless of me using adblock or not.

            You all act like you have to be glued to the screen the entire time.

            No, but I do watch content online since it is more entertaining and informative compared to TV channels. This calls back to 1st point.

            Would I wait 5 minutes instead of 30 service through an ad? No.

            I’d rather not wait at all, but I do not have a choice I guess. Either consume ads or wait a few secs - that are my options.

            Because my time is more valuable then that.

            So, you value your time but it is worth it to spend on watching ads? I am confused. Nobody glues you to the screen for the time video loads. You can do plethora of things during wait time that are much more valuable than watching/skipping an ad.

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              Did you not read the comment I replied to at first?

              Dude said that he would rather wait 1 minute, even 5 minutes rather then watching a 30 second ad.

              That’s just fucking stupid.

              I block ads all over the place when I can. But they are not always blockable on every device and every network. So you just ignore them. Simple. Rather then throwing a fit like a child and saying I would rather wait 5 minutes for a video to load with no ad then just ignoring a 30 second ad.

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    I don’t spend a lot of time on there, so some of the “new to me” stuff is probably fairly old.

    But, I hopped on this weekend searching for videos on a specific topic and I was inundated with “Shorts”. Brief clips that from what I gather contain no valuable information and which require you to be on crack or meth to keep up with? I dunno?

    Then I noticed that an old account I used to watch way back in the day showed up on my subscriptions page, so I clicked in to look at that, and now they have accounts or videos that you have to pay to watch/subscribe to? Is this OnlyFans without the sex stuff now?

    Then to top it off, the close captions are apparently 100% AI and every sentence displayed is something like “Gum potion trial and barrier for job put chin”. Like I thought this stuff was supposed to be intelligent, it’s basically right there in the name, or am I missing something?

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    It’s funny, I found that switching tabs will immediately make it start playing the video. The idea of losing you entirely is too much, I guess

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    The interruptions supposedly caused by my adblock are tiny compared to the interruptions when I turn it off.

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      Yeah no shit. “Experiencing interuptions,” nope I’m not actually thank you very much. Youtube has gone down enough in quality to where I would probably just dump it if they manage to hamfist the ads back in. The algo is straight up terrible at keeping me engaged. You watched one video about Y? Whole feed is now about Y for the next week. I find better videos browsing incognito sometimes.

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        On the other hand, you watched a bunch of videos of X consistently,but skipped the last 3 we recommended? You’ll never see that topic again.

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          Me: Searches for a very specific video that I know exists because I have seen it within the last three months.

          YouTube: Nope, sorry, just can’t find it. Don’t know where it went. I don’t think that video ever actually existed. I’m not even gonna show you results that contain your search terms because of how stupid I think you are.

          In my case, it was looking for a specific video of pulling a 4.2 liter Jeep engine out of a CJ7. YouTube responded with dozens of videos on CJ5’s and Wranglers, and the 4.0 liter engine, but not the 4.2 CJ7, and not the video I was looking for, and unfortunately it’s not the Jeepin with Cool Guy video.

          Although, in one scroll, they did offer to show me the exact same video three different times.

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            Inexplicably, despite having the same parent company, a google (or any engine really) search is going to have far better results for finding videos on youtube. I swear they stopped improving the internal search capability back in 2010, when they could have just punted to google.com ages ago.

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              Have you seen google photos ? The search function there is shockingly bad. Even when I know a photo exists of xyz, searching for xyz or words related to xyz finds either nothing at all, or unrelated images.

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                Perhaps that’s a blessing in disguise. They know way too much about me already. I was also glad, in retrospect, that they started limiting photo storage as I no longer upload any photos to them. The Android app is big mad about that and periodically tries to trick me into re-enabling uploads.

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                That’s because google doesn’t show you internet search results any more. It takes your parameters and serves you the closest match it can find within its advertising network

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            I had an 01 Cherokee sport and that 4.0 was amazing though. Spin the tires on pavement no problem even with the automatic transmission.

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        I’ll load a video on my PC and it’ll “buffer” for about 5-10 seconds, then play the video. I’ll get that little pop-up of “experiencing Interruptions?”

        If I have to wait 10 seconds to watch a 30 minute video ad free, I’ll take it. Sure as hell beats the 30-60 seconds of ads before the video, and the in-video ads that you’ll stick in the middle of a fucking sentence so I lose the context of what someone is saying.

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          I tried to watch a video on my phone’s YT app, and ouch!

          The ad is not only in the middle of a fucking sentence, but it also doesn’t pause the video and hijacks the volume. And it interrupts all the fucking time, there were at least a dozen ads in a 1-hour video.

          And also, the “rewind 5 seconds” button is not there anymore. And YT won’t let you use another application while the video is running anymore. And if you move from the YT app for too long, it jumps right to the end of the video.

          Yeah, I’m willing to use that shit while my ad-blocker unfucks it. The moment Google is successful in breaking that, I’m out.

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              Or Revanced, link to youtube, just use youtube. No ads either.

              Whatever works for you. I’d rather people use a dozen different ways to ad block youtube than watch youtube ads.

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    I especially like the little glimpses to the advertisement hellscape I’m avoiding when my adblock plugin fails to work (usually right before they need an update). I especially like how the ads are rocking some kind of premium low-latency CDN while the rest of youtube is served from a cluster of used xboxes, presumably co-located in an abandoned Radio Shack in suburban Alaska. Treat your users better, Google.

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      I have ad blockers on my PC, use Smarttube on my Firestick, and ReVanced on my phone. And when someone sends me a youtube link in a group chat or something and I click it, it’ll open the standard Youtube. 1/2 ads, 30+ seconds long, can’t skip them… I just don’t even bother watching what you sent me.

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        Try installing URLCheck (it’s on F-Droid) and make it your default browser, then remove open-by-defaults from the YouTube app.

        It should let you open in the ReVanced or better yet Morphe version of YouTube. If tapping the link doesn’t open URLCheck, then “Share” the link and select URLCheck.

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        Because you can’t open youtube in vanced, if I want to do that I just open it in youtube, cancel and then open vacned and play it from history.

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    I use vanced and uBlock Origin, but I do also pay for YouTube. I watch more YouTube than anything, and I’m okay paying for it.

    But I still use Privacy Badger, uBlock Origin, ad nauseum (really cool if you want to fuck with the algorithms on the stuff that gets through), etc.

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      Which, oh no i have to wait an extra 2 seconds of no ads, instead of waiting 15 seconds of ads that will continue playing unless i actively skip it

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    Ah yes, experience a <15 second loading buffer…

    Or watch potentially multiple entire minute long, unskippable adverts.

    Honestly part of me has considered paying for YouTube premium - but aside from not having to fight off ADs, I don’t care about the other perks, and am more than happy to just give to the creators directly without Google getting a cut.

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      I’ll close and reopen a video multiple times until it goes straight to the video before I watch an ad.

      ProTube is solid, and the SponsorBlock extension is also nice.

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      I considered paying for it but the cost vs benefit just wasnt there.

      To prevent a few ads playing vs blocking those ads anyway for free.

      yeah nah.

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        The number of videos I watch on YouTube amounts to maybe 3 hours a week.

        At best.

        On average maybe 20-30 minutes.

        I’m not willing to pay $13 $9 a month for that.

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          What? 13? a month?, wtf is Google thinking 🤔, I’m really surprised of the price, I have been blocking add for years and it’s been long since researched for the price, damn.

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              1 dollar a month would be a great deal, we are getting to the point that the private data they are gathering from us is not enough to pay for the services.

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                The problem with YouTube Premium is that it’s not differentiated from NewPipe or Vanced.

                You don’t get a better algorithm. You don’t get higher quality. You don’t get faster speeds.

                You literally get a service that is provided by third party apps.

                Until they start baking in ads with their content, YouTube Premium is essentially a paid service for people who don’t run adblock or don’t want to use a third party tool.

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                  Most people don’t care, I have tried a lot to migrate people to newpipe, SmartTube, etc. and they just don’t care.

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          YouTube is probably 90% of our streaming consumption.

          Combine that with the music streaming, background play, video downloading, and ability to access it on hotel smart TVs.

          Plus it supports the creators I like.

          Really makes YTP a no-brainer for us.

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            You can get background play via using FireFox, video downloading with extensions or other programs, and play anything on hotel TVs with a video cable from a laptop or any other device. All without paying the great beast.

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              I’m not going to implement multiple workarounds on our android and apple phones and plug a laptop into a tv every time I want to watch YouTube on it. YTP is well worth my few dollars a month.

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      Per view, YouTube premium pays more then add supported ones. How much exactly I dont know.

      But it’s all relative. For example Patrion would be a much better way of supporting a creator

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    What interruptions, Youtube? Literally nothing changed other than the fact there aren’t ads playing.