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That’s a very /notTheOnion headline.
It makes me picture a scene:
The clock tower strikes, high noon. Shudders snap closed along the deserted street. Two men stare at each other, hands at their waists.
“Well if it isn’t the famous outlaw Franky Flynn himself… it looks like your blood lead levels are about to go up partner”
“Yep… in the flesh. Funny thing though, studies have shown that exposure to Franky Flynn can cause blood-lead levels to rise in lawmen by up to 600 %”
“Well… [spits], I do my own research”
Lack of guns will also significantly decrease lead in children.
Depending on where you live, that’s not always an option.
For example, if you live out in the boonies or on a farm, guns are great tools for pest control. And in many places, the cops (or animal control) are 30+ minutes away. I’ve had to shoot more than one rabid animal.
Not to mention hunting.
Not everyone needs a gun, but it makes sense in some circumstances.
Yes, but what percentage of people actually need guns?
When the fascists are taking over? Every man, woman and child.
More than you’d think.
Still enough to be the exception cases in a ban rule
Somewhere between 14-20% of the US population, depending on how rural is defined.
Hell I’m surrounded by suburbs and live in a good sized city but have a small farm. I’ve had animals killed by raccoons, hawks. eagles, foxes, coyote, loose dogs and opossums that I know of. I’ve also seen black bear, and obviously we see lots of deer and other wildlife. That’s all in the city. If you drive an hour out you get wild boar too, sometimes I help hunt them because they’re so destructive.
I somehow forgot about hogs. They’re a significant issue here, and they’re super dangerous.
My step-father was charged by one before. He shot it point blank in the forehead with a 9mm pistol, and the bullet went in the scalp, traveled around the skull and out the back. All it did was stun it long enough for him to grab a rifle out of the gator.
But I think you’d fall in the definition that puts the number at 20%. That one is basically, “not in a major metropolitan area.”
That ship sailed a looooong time ago.
Progress is not linear, what’s old will be new again.
Inversely it will lead the decease in children
And adults alike.
Well that’s one way to phrase it
Thought this was Not The Onion with a headline like that.
Unsafe storage just reduces blood levels in children
Edit// While increasing lead
One of those problems who only exist on the place where you can buy a Assault rifle on the same store where you buy milk, eggs and a frying pan
One of those problems who only exist on the place where you can buy a Assault rifle on the same store where you buy milk, eggs and a frying pan
I’m guessing this was copy pasted from a translator. It didn’t get it right. This is how it should read:
One of those problems that only exists in a place where you can buy an assault rifle at the same store where you buy milk, eggs and a frying pan.
Also, you can’t buy assault rifles at Walmart. The rural stores carry hunting rifles. I live in a suburb and the one near me doesn’t even sell ammo.
The amount of upvotes is pretty hilarious considering you can’t buy assault rifles anywhere. Shows how uneducated people truly are on the subject.
“Assault rifles” aren’t available without special federal licensing and several hoops to jump through with ATF-- assuming you’re trying to describe a rifle that’s tactical in appearance and is “full auto”.
An “AR-15” is Armalight Rifle, not assault rifle. They’re actually a smaller caliber than pretty much every hunting rifle out there. While tactical in appearance, they’re still 100% semi-auto, as are all firearms purchased by anyone in the US.
I’d also like to point out several places like Dick’s Sporting Goods, Walmart, and a few others have reduced or completely eliminated carrying firearms all together, and might only carry ammunition (which you do need to be at least 18 to buy with ID or 21 in some instances). Other retailers have started adopting stricter rules on sales to reduce liabilities as well.
The issues with firearms has primarily been laxed storage by family/parents making easy access, lack of education in safety (where accidents often happen from mishandling), or the glorification in the media giving those seeking the attention their “15 minutes of fame”… (Personally, for the ‘mass shooters’ I feel its less to do with mental health issues like the media tries to claim it is, while realistically, I think a lot of it is desensitizing and glorification having made a name for themselves, however wrong/bad it is, and again, getting that spotlight).
I’ll just add, both my son and daughter had firearms exposure in a safe and controlled environment and know how to handle them. The point is, if a friend ever says, “wanna see my dad’s Gun?” They’ll know how to handle the situation by understanding the dangers, walking away and telling an adult. If they’re ever facing a school situation they’ll better understand what one looks like and tell the nearest adult, etc.
Assault rifle you say? Where is this magical place? Last I heard assault rifles were next to impossible to get unless you were a licensed arms manufacturer.
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Had not the USA been short on eggs lately, that would not happen with guns… or did I misunderstood the country you were referring to? ;)
You can buy both eggs and guns at Walmart in the USA
Little known fact that bullets can cause outside blood.
Meanwhile, instead, give up your privacy for age verification.
Instead of a safe, which requires parents to be accountable, why not have routine in home government inspections? It’s to protect the children.
(Also, yes, no guns would do it, just drawing a parallel here in our stupid governments oppressing us)
And yet MAGAts are always fighting against any sort of gun safety laws.
So I assume this study was meant to narrow down the previously-established association between gun ownership and household lead levels by focusing on gun storage. But couldn’t it also be the case that lead exposure (from guns) is causing caregivers to store their guns less carefully?
(Or in other words—maybe the danger of elevated household lead due to gun ownership is independent of storage practices; but lead exposure also leads to more dangerous storage practices, which causes the correlation.)
Interesting take. That’s not the conclusion that they’re drawing but it’s certainly possible. I also want to know the mechanism for the increased lead levels. Are kids chewing on the bullets? Is lead somehow deposited in the home?
Edit: I read it again and I feel like something is still missing. Firing a gun leads to lead particles on clothing that come back home. But lack of storage leads to more lead in the children. If you don’t store your gun, are you waving it around your house? Firing it in the basement?
I also want to know the mechanism for the increased lead levels. Are kids chewing on the bullets? Is lead somehow deposited in the home?
I think you can interpolate what’s happening from this part:
Firing a gun leads to lead particles on clothing that come back home.
So it sounds to me, like when you fire a gun, a few things happen. The bullet travels down the barrel and as it does, it makes some contact with the barrel, some particles of lead scrape or spald off. These particles are largely expelled by the barrel exhaust, but some of it can be deposited in or on the gun. So any gun that has been fired many times becomes a source of lead particulates that can get into the air. I’d expect a gun safe provides the same amount of protection from this exposure as a zip lock bag would. (But i’d still recommend using the gun safe). Theoretically, you could also reduce this exposure by thoroughly cleaning the gun before bringing it into the home, though I have no idea what level of cleaning would be necessary to achieve this, it could be a lot.
I totally agree with your Ziploc bag analogy lol. If the only concern was reducing lead exposure, I bet just a plastic bag would be enough. However, if we are only talking about using the weapon and bringing it home, does storage really matter? If the particles are all over your clothes, you are just dragging that lead everywhere.
I’m thinking it’s more to do with what one of the other commenters said, lack of storage suggests a certain attitude. If you’re not storing it, you are probably moving it around the house, cleaning it on the table, etc. So maybe both groups of people have the same amount of lead on their weapon, but the storage group takes it straight to the gun safe instead of leaving it in their pants and letting it sprinkle heavy metal surprises around the house?
I skimmed the paper (tiny pdf text on a phone screen is hard to read) and it sounds like merely having a gun out results in airborne contaminants. Any particles light enough to be carried by air currents will be carried around the house instead of just inside the safe. I wasn’t able to read and analyze the tables.
If you place a fired gun (contaminated with GSR) on a surface, particularly where you eat (kitchen counter, dining table) or on a fabric (couch, bed), it contaminates your living space and doesn’t really go away without cleaners that are effective on heavy metals.
Doesn’t even have to be “stored”. Cleaning your gun on the dining table, for example.
Yeah I think this is part of it. I think it has less to do with the storage and more to do with the other activities. Maybe someone who doesn’t lock up their gun is more likely to clean it on the kitchen table, for example
Insecure storage speaks to an overall blasé attitude towards firearms that’s for sure.
So like Canadians and Scandinavian kids have lower lead levels than usanians?
Probably, but also due to pollution and lead pipes, or lack thereof.
That’s the implied joke yes.
I thought this was just common sense.
That’s what you get when your country lets anyone buy a gun without any kind of safety training.
