Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.

Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.

Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.

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    You delete your posts because of karma.

    I delete them because they display my embarrassing incompetence for all to see.

    We are not the same.

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    I think a number if post deletions are to avoid the negative comments coming in since there’s no way to turn off inbox interaction or notifications per post.

    I know you can turn off notifications all together, but I don’t want that either. I just want to mute posts where I keep getting negative replies to.

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    Don’t delete your stuff over downvotes ever. Say what you mean and mean what you say and if some people don’t like that oh well. The need for universal validation is killing human discourse

    Being authentic means not everyone is going to like or agree with you all the time, it’s a good thing

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      Well, you can say stupid shit and only realize it after you already posted it.

      In those situations it’s better to just edit the comment so people can still read the stupid shit with the context that the commenter doesn’t believe in the stupid shit anymore.

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        You saying I’m posting stupid shit without realising it?

        Edit : you weren’t talking about me at all my bad

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          And this is how you handle realising that you just posted stupid shit. You keep the the stupid shit but you also acknowledge your mistake in an edit.

          Good job accidentally modeling good behaviour

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      Just dont up/downvote period. Its malignant cancer growing in human interaction.

      This gamification of human discourse is one of the leading reasons we’ve seen opinions and positions polarize and extremify over the years, because of a dopamine addiction fueled feedback loop of saying the right thing and getting massive upvotes for it, and the feedback bubbles it inevitably creates.

      To the point that people skip the entire conversation and just assume upvote = right and downvote = wrong, and vote en-masse without having to think, read, or develop any analytical skill or social ability.

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        But the internet has an endless stream of garbage that isn’t worth your time. Would you prefer an opaque algorithm controlled by someone else to sort things for you? The transparency of fediverse voting is refreshing and the least bad option.

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      Sometimes, we say a thing we meant, but then later we learn a new thing or our perspective on an issue changes. That old post/comments can feel quite embarrassing or shameful, and removing it (or editing the original content out) can feel like the only way to still feel like you belong. If the choice is between removing one piece of your history here, or removing yourself from the community, the one piece feels like the superior choice. IF that’s the alternative.

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    The only time I delete I post is if I say something factually incorrect that I learn about later. I don’t want to be responsible for spreading incorrect information.

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    People should perhaps be cautious of what they downvote. I recently posted my take on something, but said I was open to counterarguments. The responses were good and made me reconsider (though not entirely alter) my opinion. My initial take was downvoted—which feels like it is being used as a ‘disagree’ button, which is arguably not the point.

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      I don’t know that it is “not the point”. I’m sure there are varied expectations, and I don’t think there are clearly defined rules of what an up or down vote means exactly, but it seems they are generally accepted to be “this is a good post/comment” or “this is a bad post/comment”. I think you just got downvoted because you had a bad take. That’s OK. Shit happens.

    • ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe
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      the disagree button is a common argument on lemmy. you just can’t get rid of it as it is so much easier, than writing a comment.

      just ignore it, if people use it to disagree. its just some stupid internet points - which don’t even get summed up (as OP mentioned)

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        Isn’t the upvote and downvote buttons intended for good and bad quality of the comments? A comment can have high quality and provide something to the discussion even if most people disagree with it.

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      I set my lemmy client so that I can’t see downvotes, only how many upvotes… and my instance doesn’t enable downvotes as is. It changes the experience for the better imo

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    You can tell when a troll is from reddit because they will spam your comment history with downvotes as if it matters at all here.

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    Are people deleting because of karma?

    At least from my time on Reddit, when people deleted something, it’s because they didn’t want the post to come back and bite them a while because of others seeing it after the fact, or they just regularly scrubbed the account for privacy reasons, rather than anything to do with actual karma.

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      It’s both, I’ve seen plenty of posts on Reddit before I was banned about helping people not care so much about downvotes which they found devastating, which the answer btw is therapy, no one should care that much about the opinions of bots and a few strangers

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    Piefed does have some bizarre attitude system. It was not well documented if it was only your own votes that factor into it, and I did not want to waste time deciphering the code to figure it out.

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    I hope it stays this way. Karma systems inevitably create tribalistic echo chambers, where people downvote others simply because they disagree with a statement but lack any logical counterargument. It is an attempt to silence dissenting opinions, a form of behavior that is both extremely toxic and primitive.

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      After ~12 years on reddit I still don’t understand the point of karma. Okay, it’s nice to have this counter, but that’s it. I’ve never checked out how much karma someone else has.

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    And if you come from Reddit where people can’t ignore a comment with a different opinion and have to down vote it, please don’t do that here. We don’t need that negativity.

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    You should still delete your posts and comments.

    There’s only so much server space and if it turns out you dropped a stinker you can save dozens of servers from having to hold it.

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    Even if you’re on Reddit, deleting your post/comment because of downvotes is cowardly. Is your ego so fragile you won’t stand by your own words because of imaginary internet points?

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      The main problem is that people give down votes for other opinions. They can’t go to the next post or comment without pressing the negativity button. Their ego is fragile.

      But I agree with your comment.

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      If you have karma to burn, sure. But if you’re low-karma and an infrequent poster, a drop in karma means your comments get blocked in some communities or, worse, shadowbanned.

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      I had a few heavily heavily downvoted comments on Reddit, usually just for making a joke that missed…. But I’d never delete them. Gotta own your mistakes and make up for it with quality replies